Oh yeah, let's be more like France....

I am utterly confused. I thought if nothing else you would appreciate the people rioting. They always riot in France. Anytime the government tries to make any changes the people riot to keep it the way the people want. Sure the government tries to placate the industries (and a lot of the stuff that they want to do would help economic growth), but the people rise up and riot telling them screw that we don't care about highrises we just want to enjoy our lives.

And say what you will about them, the people dictate the rules there. Both our countries history with our declaration of independence and French Revolution made us both allies and without there help we may have been brits for quite a while longer.

I love America and think it is the best place to live, but to think we are not as pompus as people think the french are your mistaken.
 
hanimmal said:
I am utterly confused. I thought if nothing else you would appreciate the people rioting. They always riot in France. Anytime the government tries to make any changes the people riot to keep it the way the people want. Sure the government tries to placate the industries (and a lot of the stuff that they want to do would help economic growth), but the people rise up and riot telling them screw that we don't care about highrises we just want to enjoy our lives.

And say what you will about them, the people dictate the rules there. Both our countries history with our declaration of independence and French Revolution made us both allies and without there help we may have been brits for quite a while longer.

I love America and think it is the best place to live, but to think we are not as pompus as people think the french are your mistaken.
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My issue was the fact that you don't see our government on the verge of restricting companies from developing new technologies that make use of old. No one in the United States in their right mind would insist that the small company mentioned in the linked article should pay for the unused power that the power companies were producing.

Besides, we've earned the right to be pompous.
 
My issue was the fact that you don't see our government on the verge of restricting companies from developing new technologies that make use of old. No one in the United States in their right mind would insist that the small company mentioned in the linked article should pay for the unused power that the power companies were producing.

Besides, we've earned the right to be pompous.
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Yes by blowing up everyone that disagrees with us.

I thought that it said they wanted to charge for a technology that is currently in place and 'free' (but we both know that it is still being paid for), but to up the amount of homes that have it and charge everyone from then forward, which would help conserve energy across the country and help reduce costs? I will have to reread the article if I got it wrong.
 
hanimmal said:
Yes by blowing up everyone that disagrees with us.

I thought that it said they wanted to charge for a technology that is currently in place and 'free' (but we both know that it is still being paid for), but to up the amount of homes that have it and charge everyone from then forward, which would help conserve energy across the country and help reduce costs? I will have to reread the article if I got it wrong.
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You read it wrong.

They want to charge the company that is providing the tools to reduce consumption at peak hours for the revenues lost to the entrenched state-ran power company.

Socialism at its "finest."


Two weeks ago, the French Energy Regulatory Commission, the C.R.E., decided that Voltalis, a company that installs electricity management devices in homes and businesses and then manages their use, would have to, in effect, pay power producers for the power that it saves.
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:spew:
 
TheBrutalTruth said:
My issue was the fact that you don't see our government on the verge of restricting companies from developing new technologies that make use of old. No one in the United States in their right mind would insist that the small company mentioned in the linked article should pay for the unused power that the power companies were producing.

Besides, we've earned the right to be pompous.
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You're totally right we never have bogus lawsuits and outragous verdicts here in favor of corporate or special interests, we are perfect. ;)

Are you trying to link a bad call here to their commie medical system is that why you bring this up?
 
You read it wrong.

They want to charge the company that is providing the tools to reduce consumption at peak hours for the revenues lost to the entrenched state-ran power company.

Socialism at its "finest."
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But then it was followed up with people protesting it. People can talk shit all they want in politics and say absolutely insane things playing up to the people voting for them (*coughpalin*), but most the time they know it is all crap to get re-elected.

As much as I am saying good about Obama and France on these boards, I don't claim either is the end all be all, but some thing we can gain from them. And in France the people got it right. When people come for their rights or what they have worked so hard to gain (Gasp universal health system) they fight like hell to stop it and riot like no tomorrow.
 
I like how they protest.
But its always to get something for nothing.

Everyone is greedy we all work towards our own best interest.
This is the natural progression of things.
That is why libertarianism is the only real solution.
It is the only fair system that does not rely on forced subordination.

People like their governments.
The government gives them legal powers they wouldn't otherwise have.
To steal their fellow citizen goods and services
at the point of a government agents gun.
 
There is no perfect party. What we need to do is elect the best and brightest, and not the people that convinced everyone that they are really on their side.

I like how they protest.
But its always to get something for nothing.
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Your wrong, they protest as a society. They are the ones paying for it all. When someone tries to take it away in the name of profits that is when they revolt.

Profits are great, they make the society achieve to the highest levels. But how much is enough is where the discrepencies arise.
 
really out on a limb there hanni all frenchie and stuff. how about asking them to defend us when our next enemy attacks? now i feel safe. can you imagine the taliban wearing beres! fantastic. my GOD man, wake up. they make a hell of a cheese but their asses have been bailed out by other countries blood more times than pamela anderson has had her breasts augmented. besides, their french! ;-)
 
really out on a limb there hanni all frenchie and stuff. how about asking them to defend us when our next enemy attacks? now i feel safe. can you imagine the taliban wearing beres! fantastic. my GOD man, wake up. they make a hell of a cheese but their asses have been bailed out by other countries blood more times than pamela anderson has had her breasts augmented. besides, their french! :wink:
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We have enough military to take on almost the entire world. And we did ask for Frances help in Iraq.

But that being said I said we should take some things from them, not that we have to become them!
 
hanimmal said:
We have enough military to take on almost the entire world. And we did ask for Frances help in Iraq.

But that being said I said we should take some things from them, not that we have to become them!
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We can take their nuclear power plants, they can keep the rest.
 
We have enough military to take on almost the entire world. And we did ask for Frances help in Iraq.

But that being said I said we should take some things from them, not that we have to become them!
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like i said...cheese, they make good cheese. i prefer to be judged by my deeds/works and paid accordingly. they prefer to be paid with the intent of getting out of work. its a virtual 90% welfare state. other than nuclear energy, they dont lead the world in anything. and i wish we would follow their lead with that. other than that, no thank you
 
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