Now that Michigan Rec is legal...

silusbotwin

silusbotwin

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FrostyTheDruid said:
Show me a point in time where Democrats (I should say liberals since cuckservatives were Democrats waaaaay back in the day) actively worked to subvert the will of the voters...I’ll wait...

These Republican assholes are trying to rip apart legislation that was just voted on less than a month ago. Besides this they also took a ballot measure in mi to raise the minimum wage, passed it ahead of the vote so it would not be on the ballot so they could gut it during the lame duck session with a simple majority. Don’t even get me into the bullshit the Repukes in the federal government are doing under Mitch McConnel.

Take those false equivalencies and sell them to someone stupid enough to buy them.
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The left subverts the will of the people every day. The only difference is that the right is much more brazen and in your face with it. If you still think either side gives a shit about you, you have MUCH more to learn. I don't expect you to be receptive to my saying so though. It's apparent that you are pretty set in your way of thinking. Your mind seems pretty closed off so really there is no point in showing you any evidence. It's very scary to challenge your entire worldview. Picks you up and slams you out of your comfort zone. I bet you want to say some nasty things to me right now just because of this post, huh?
 
silusbotwin

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FrostyTheDruid said:
lol Russia does not even break down homicides by cause in their statistics. So all you could possibly draw from that is Russia has more murders. You certainly can’t prove they were by firearm since that data isn’t available. But your a 2A gun nut who will believe anything that supports his argument. It’s pathetic really how badly you have drank the kool-aid.
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You are so oblivious to the fact that you are exactly what you accuse others of being. Your mind is SO closed off that you just spew knee jerk character attacks. It seems you REALLY are NOT comfortable with having your worldview challenged. Still, much love and respect and I wish you peace and prosperity <3
 
silusbotwin

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Norby Grown said:
I stopped but this guy doesn't like it when he can understand data and goes to name calling. Even after I stopped he continued with the insults.
And the data is from legit sites, FBI and others. And it's 25 years ago, not 30. He can't even add and subtract, I can see why data scares him and he only listens to the rebuttals given to him by party lines.
And I dislike both parties the same, I'm an independent, not a republican nor in the NRA so he doesn't know how to respond because all republicans or dems paint the "opposition" as the other side.
Go ahead, ignore me like you ignore the truth, it suits you.
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A common sign that someone is incapable of opening their mind and changing their opinions are those exact insults you mentioned. Notice how personal he/she takes everything and how emotional their responses are? People like this are just simply not ready to see the light yet. They just haven't had or processed the information yet. I just try to keep it kind and respectful and hope they don't get too deep in their feelings, while nudging them to ask themselves questions that lead to a logical conclusion. Some people are just a black hole for energy though. Some people just aren't willing to confront reality. It just is what it is and thats okay. They will come around in their own time, but nothing we say, no matter how politely we say it, will ever open their eyes.
 
FrostyTheDruid

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silusbotwin said:
A common sign that someone is incapable of opening their mind and changing their opinions are those exact insults you mentioned. Notice how personal he/she takes everything and how emotional their responses are? People like this are just simply not ready to see the light yet. They just haven't had or processed the information yet. I just try to keep it kind and respectful and hope they don't get too deep in their feelings, while nudging them to ask themselves questions that lead to a logical conclusion. Some people are just a black hole for energy though. Some people just aren't willing to confront reality. It just is what it is and thats okay. They will come around in their own time, but nothing we say, no matter how politely we say it, will ever open their eyes.
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lmao, nothing you have said in the last 3 posts is anything other than your opinion. Which I hate to tell you, I have no reason to respect. So thanks for your opinions. They’ve been noted. Buh bye now!
 
Skylor

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I think some people are all for more guns, so they can justify locking up many other people for a very long time in order to keep us "safe"...oh we HAVE to do it or there be much more crime, killings. Sadly they are right but if we were like Canada were its much harder to find a gun, well then there be less reasons to lock as many people up.

The USA loses like 30 to 40% of the people, they are either locked up or are dead. Many other countries lock up only like 3--4% of their people and have way fewer early deaths.

The war on drugs really started going full blast, once the civil rights bill was passed in the 1960's. Before then, we were like other countries and it was much harder to get locked up "forever" but then equal rights for everybody was the new law and then the war on drugs came about a few years later, hmm
 
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Skylor

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I'm also sick of hearing how its the illegal gun owners who are the problem. The last few mass shootings here in the USA have been done by legal gun owners. In Vegas, Penn, FL were all done by legally brought guns, 2 of the 3 shootings were by middle age guys who never broke the law until the day they went crazy.

We even got cops down in FL that kill a few before turning the gun on themsleves--one dept had 2 cops in the last few months go crazy with their legal gun.

IMO there is no safe gun owner, anybody could flip out one day and go crazy, doesn't matter who you are or how old you are.
 
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thenasty1

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Skylor said:
IMO there is no safe gun owner, anybody could flip out one day and go crazy, doesn't matter who you are or how old you are.
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anyone could flip out one day and start killing people with a steak knife. or a hammer. or a large rock. or their shoelaces. or a bottle of bleach. you think we should prohibit people from having those too?
 
resinhead

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Nice to see so much activity back at RIU!

Let’s talk about weed. It’s kind of sad what it has become here.
 
FrostyTheDruid

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thenasty1 said:
anyone could flip out one day and start killing people with a steak knife. or a hammer. or a large rock. or their shoelaces. or a bottle of bleach. you think we should prohibit people from having those too?
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How many people per minute do you reckon you could kill with a shoelace?
 
Norby Grown

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Gun laws for the sake of guns laws goes against being a free country. If there is no victim there should be no crime, to a point. NYS the "safe act" says you can have 10 round clips but you can only load 7 bullets into it. Once you put the 8th bullet in the clip you become a felon. Sorry but in my book that's just not right. Someone intent on killing people is NOT going to follow that law but if someone miscounts and is caught they automatically become a felon. If the laws being passed were according to statistics to prevent deaths I'm all for it. Having to pass a class before buying a pistol, the most dangerous of all weapons because it can be concealed and is way too easy to point at yourself I consider a common sense law. Pistols account for 97% of all accidents, suicides and homicides but no one is touting a law for mandatory federal classes and background checks(which are way more in depth of a background check than buying a rifle or shotgun). Which screams to me that the people proposing gun laws are full of horseshit and know nothing about guns, they jsut want to "do something" even if it does NOTHING to address the real problems. But I could fire off just as many rounds with a 10 - 10 round clips as I could fire out of 3 30 round clips minus a second or 2. That is no reason to make 20 or 30 round clips a felony charge in my mind.
 
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Norby Grown said:
Gun laws for the sake of guns laws goes against being a free country. If there is no victim there should be no crime, to a point. NYS the "safe act" says you can have 10 round clips but you can only load 7 bullets into it. Once you put the 8th bullet in the clip you become a felon. Sorry but in my book that's just not right. Someone intent on killing people is NOT going to follow that law but if someone miscounts and is caught they automatically become a felon. If the laws being passed were according to statistics to prevent deaths I'm all for it. Having to pass a class before buying a pistol, the most dangerous of all weapons because it can be concealed and is way too easy to point at yourself I consider a common sense law. Pistols account for 97% of all accidents, suicides and homicides but no one is touting a law for mandatory federal classes and background checks(which are way more in depth of a background check than buying a rifle or shotgun). Which screams to me that the people proposing gun laws are full of horseshit and know nothing about guns, they jsut want to "do something" even if it does NOTHING to address the real problems. But I could fire off just as many rounds with a 10 - 10 round clips as I could fire out of 3 30 round clips minus a second or 2. That is no reason to make 20 or 30 round clips a felony charge in my mind.
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Well that’s because you’re using logic. There’s a weird disconnect with certain people that will never own a gun. They seem to think the next law is the one that will stop a criminal.

There will never be a time where someone stops his car and turns around to go home because he didn’t want to break a law on his way to kill someone.
 
Norby Grown

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And the NICS system is the problem why a lot of mass shooters were able to buy guns. A LOT of violent military crimes aren't required to be reported to the NICS system which is what they check to see if someone is able to purchase a gun. States VOLUNTARILY report tehse crimes into the system and a lot of them slip thru the cracks and don't get reported. The one shooter told the cops he was having a hard time after his mom died and did things the cops should have gone after and got the kid before he committed a mass shooting. And that's why those shooters were "legally" able to buy a gun, but I never see a bill recommended by any representative to make it mandatory to report ALL violent crimes, such as spousal abuse to the NICS system. Shows me they really don't want to solve the problem they just want to use gun violence as a reason to take away more rights instead of trying to even fix the system we have in place. It's just another divide and conquer ploy to take away more rights.
 
Norby Grown

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Fixed up said:
Well that’s because you’re using logic. There’s a weird disconnect with certain people that will never own a gun. They seem to think the next law is the one that will stop a criminal.

There will never be a time where someone stops his car and turns around to go home because he didn’t want to break a law on his way to kill someone.
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And those people are quite ok with giving up a right they don't ever care to use and expect the rest of society to "care" for them. I believe it's my duty as an American citizen to stop and if necessary shoot to kill someone who is committing crimes in my neighborhood and has it in them to kill someone in my neighborhood. I would not run and hide and let that person harm someone else in my community. If more people acted this way we wouldn't be sheep that are so easy to target. These people have never committed a mass shooting at a gun range or anywhere they would actually find resistance.
 
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