Nôtre-Dame de Paris: 1163-2019

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    cannabineer

    cannabineer Ursus marijanus

    Sic transit gloria mundi

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    cannabineer

    cannabineer Ursus marijanus

    I simply do not know what to say.

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    cannabineer

    cannabineer Ursus marijanus

    Latest news: "the two towers are safe and cooling". Efforts continue to save as much as possible of the structure and contained artworks.

    I just read that the collapsed spire was an 18th-century restoration. It was made of timber sheathed in lead. Place must be a hazmat site now. I do wonder if the great rose window made it.

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    Singlemalt

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    cannabineer

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    Singlemalt

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    cannabineer

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    From CBS News

    https://www.cbsnews.com/live-news/n...paris-collapse-live-updates-today-2019-04-15/
     
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    curious2garden

    curious2garden Well-Known Member

    Oh I'm sure it was simply an accident, Holy Week and all.

    We can recreate those windows but it will never be the same. What a shame.
     
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    curious2garden

    curious2garden Well-Known Member

    FIFY
     
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    BarnBuster

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    This was so sad. Can you imagine working your entire life, as some of the craftsmen of the time did, on a structure that your great great great grandfather also worked on for his whole life? Knowing nothing of ND, I went on our library inter-library loan website. The best books on the history are all in French which I don't read. The English ones have all been checked out already, first time in decades probably.

    further reading:
    The city and the cathedral, a reflection of the glory of the Gothic and the Middle Ages at their high tide in the city by the Seine / Anderson, Robert Gordon, 1948

    Notre-Dame de Paris / Alain Erlande-Brandenburg, 1993.

    Notre-Dame of Paris / Temko, Allan, 1955

    The biography of a cathedral; the living story of man's most beautiful creation / Anderson, Robert Gordon, 1944

    Notre-Dame de Paris / Richard and Clara Winston, 1971





     
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    420God

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    Just saw on reddit that some of the glass survived.
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    The southern facade of the building also appeared to be intact, with most of the cathedral’s famed stain-glass windows remaining in place, including the enormous south-facing rose window.
     
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    lokie

    lokie Well-Known Member

    I wonder how many people smoked weed in there? You know someone has!:wink:







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    WeedFreak78

    WeedFreak78 Well-Known Member

    I'm torn. Half of me mourns the loss of the architectural and artistic history. The other half wants every vestige of catholicism to be burned off the face of the planet, no matter the significance.
     
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    lokie

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    That is a rather hard stance to take.
     
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    WeedFreak78

    WeedFreak78 Well-Known Member

    Yup, unapologetically. Not just catholicism, I'm an enemy of all organized religion
     
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    Dieseltech

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    I only believe in the poker gods. If you do not smoke up the poker gods before during and after you will not win as much $$ in online poker
     
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    BarnBuster

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    "The greatest tragedy in mankind's entire history may be the hijacking of morality by religion."
    -- Arthur C. Clarke
     
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    cannabineer

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    Are you sure you're not committing a tautology and hating people? Religion is a basic component of our nature, and until the day that we begin to practice remaking humans from the root code on up, people will have religion. (A component of mine is to be irreligious, but that just becomes a turtle one level down. I am not exempt.)

    And Catholicism is no more or less historically good or evil than any other religion. So, to hate religion is in my mind inextricable from having an equally poor opinion of humanity in general. What I do not know (but internally resist) is if that might be an appropriate response. People suck, but yet I've faith that there is enough good in us that hating them becomes as untenable as hating religion.
     
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    BudmanTX

    BudmanTX Well-Known Member

    Live updates are coming in:

    https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/notre-dame-fire/index.html

    one from FoxNews

    https://www.foxnews.com/world/notre-dame-golden-altar-cross-images-inside

    seems the north and south windows are intact, people actually saved a lot of the art works, and some artifacts from the cathedral which is good....

    almost 600mil raised for rebuilding and recontruction

    Looking through some of the pictures of the aftermath right now....

    Morning btw, coffee is nice and hot, working on the first cup right now....
     
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    cannabineer

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    I believe the bishop was incensed. (Early and often in his later years)
     

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