Not sure if broad mites or watering/nutrient issue?

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Hey all! First post on this forum and I've got to say this place is a wonderful plethora of information! So I've been growing for a few years and I've had some pretty good runs but recently I think I have A mite issue. My nutrients haven't changed and I can't find mites, but I think I found what looks to be mite eggs. My Plants hit bloom and have no pistils for 3 weeks when they used to come in the first week and a half. Also once in bloom the top leaves start to curl into sort a canoe shape downward (sometimes the top leaves sort of line out while the rest are dark green almost as if they are having a nutrient issue?) I've tried upping the nutes I've tried less nutes, I've tried letting them dry out better between waterings and still no luck. I've read the eggs are oval shaped and the ones I'm finding are more round. I've attached close up pics of what I assume are possible eggs. Thanks in advance fellas!
 

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Boostedscoob257 said:
Hey all! First post on this forum and I've got to say this place is a wonderful plethora of information! So I've been growing for a few years and I've had some pretty good runs but recently I think I have A mite issue. My nutrients haven't changed and I can't find mites, but I think I found what looks to be mite eggs. My Plants hit bloom and have no pistils for 3 weeks when they used to come in the first week and a half. Also once in bloom the top leaves start to curl into sort a canoe shape downward (sometimes the top leaves sort of line out while the rest are dark green almost as if they are having a nutrient issue?) I've tried upping the nutes I've tried less nutes, I've tried letting them dry out better between waterings and still no luck. I've read the eggs are oval shaped and the ones I'm finding are more round. I've attached close up pics of what I assume are possible eggs. Thanks in advance fellas!
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Yes, you have a mite issue so stop changing nutes, could be heat damage too but they will also curl like that from Mite infestation, which is my suspicion.

http://skunkmagazine.com/one-clean-green-farmers-solution-to-russet-mites/

No idea about the product at above link, I put the link so you could see pictures like what you've got going on, and to give you a place to start reading

Last 2 pictures could be eggs and probably their crap? It could be dirt on a leaf I can't really tell but the eggs look like what I've seen, also looks like mite damage on those leaves but need better pictures, have you found any webbing yet? I would start treating ASAP if those were my plants, good luck
 
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Boostedscoob257 said:
Hey all! First post on this forum and I've got to say this place is a wonderful plethora of information! So I've been growing for a few years and I've had some pretty good runs but recently I think I have A mite issue. My nutrients haven't changed and I can't find mites, but I think I found what looks to be mite eggs. My Plants hit bloom and have no pistils for 3 weeks when they used to come in the first week and a half. Also once in bloom the top leaves start to curl into sort a canoe shape downward (sometimes the top leaves sort of line out while the rest are dark green almost as if they are having a nutrient issue?) I've tried upping the nutes I've tried less nutes, I've tried letting them dry out better between waterings and still no luck. I've read the eggs are oval shaped and the ones I'm finding are more round. I've attached close up pics of what I assume are possible eggs. Thanks in advance fellas!
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looks like u got a free case of the borg with those new cuts.
 
since they're still in veg, i'd water with spinosad for a systemic effect, and spray with neem oil. i hate neem oil, and do not recommend it often, but at this early stage, i think it will work very well, especially with the spinosad root drench. you shouldn't have to do the drench more than twice, or the neem spray. neem is pretty heavy and oily, it ought to cling to the plant for a good while. you might even want to consider sticking them in the shower and spraying them off real good once the mites are gone.
 
Russet Mites are for real. Hit them hard !!, every few days for a couple of weeks.
They WILL return if you don't go really hard on them.
IMHO, Tossing out what you can & only keeping your best moms/clones,veg only is a good idea, and watch them closely.
Good luck.
 
BobBitchen said:
Russet Mites are for real. Hit them hard !!, every few days for a couple of weeks.
They WILL return if you don't go really hard on them.
IMHO, Tossing out what you can & only keeping your best moms/clones,veg only is a good idea, and watch them closely.
Good luck.
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One treatment of Forbid4F will wipe them out. Use in veg only. Not organic.
 
Roger A. Shrubber said:
https://www.domyown.com/forbid-4f-ornamental-insecticide-miticide-p-2332.html

it says "ornamental" right on it, as it is not intended for consumable crops....
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I understand. Users should research it well before using. Neem won't do squat on russets and I have not heard of spinosad working on them but if it has worked for you then it may be a good choice. I have not had a russet issue since using slow release dichlorvos, but don't know if that is luck or the dichlorvos.
 
Roger A. Shrubber said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dichlorvos


dude, what is convenience worth?
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That's not a good source for dichlorvos information. Last time I read it, it did not differentiate between liquid applications and slow release applications. Suggest you read the Australian report for most comprehensive safety information. When you crunch the numbers on slow release, it becomes apparent that health risks are nil for grows where you do not live in same space as your plants.

Edit: link to real information on dichlorvos: https://apvma.gov.au/sites/default/files/publication/15091-dichlorvos-final-2011.pdf
 
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I wont use Forbid myself, but I understand others using it.
Neem, spinosad,& pyrethrins seem to have little effect on Russet Mites, ( in my case anyway )
Been fighting them for over two years. Everytime I think they are gone , BOOM!!!! they're back.
I got rid of all flowering plants, tossed out my tents, tables, & trays. Cleaned all fans, lights . Disinfected the whole flower area. Bought all new equipment, Hit my remaining clones ( in cups ) with the list I posted above, twice a week for a month before I started up again, they still came back. I haven't seen any in the last 3 months, but I KNOW they are there somewhere.
Good Luck, bb
 
Super hot neem/rosemary oil spray works wonders.

I mean hot like 180F plus.

2 or 3 times, wipeout all mites all sizes and stages guaranteed.
 
Not to be a Davy Downer, but your absolute best bet would be to chop them down, thoroughly clean EVERYTHING and start over. Not to say the other treatments mentioned above won't work, but each treatment is only going to stall out your grow and once you figure in that time, not to mention re-treatment if you don't get them all and well...it's just best to start over.
 
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