newbie - think i have a problem.

adidas

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these guys are starting to flower.. is that normal for this size and at this stage?

i think they are about 5 or 6 weeks

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Did you change the light scheme? What light scheme are you using (24/0, 18/6, 12/12)? What strain is it? Or is it bagseed? What type of lights?

If you didn't change anything and it started flowering, then yea that's odd. But in terms of size, they're big enough to flower...but you won't get great yields. You need to answer the questions above for us to answer better.
 
umm there getting around 10-12 hours day, and the room isnt That dark at night. not sure what strain, they are clones. not using any fertilizer. they sitting under a 2x150MH 2x24PC.
 
they are only getting 10-12 hours of light? thats why they are flowering. Need bigger containers too. Do a little GROWFAQ reading, and at least learn some of the basics, or your really wasting your time and ours.
 
they are only getting 10-12 hours of light? thats why they are flowering. Need bigger containers too. Do a little GROWFAQ reading, and at least learn some of the basics, or your really wasting your time and ours.

yes am about to transplant, don't have my ideal setup yet. they arent in complete darkness when lights arent on, so they do get some.
 
you're using your fish tank's lights huh? i have a 12g saltwater tank with some PC lights in it, lol. You should invest in a hps light, that's the most powerful light in existence, even MH don't pump out as many lumens -- also from what i've read, those lights really need to be focused on your plants; that's why yours are leaning over (not that its a bad thing, i dunno just pointing somethin out)
 
they look fine.... if your asking are they big for there age... there a decent size... could be worse, could be better... if your asking are they a good size for flowering... then it all depends on how much u want from them and how much space u have.... u can flower a 1-2 inch plant... and u can flower a 6 ft tree... all depends on your expectations and your limitations... hope this helps
 
adidas, you're gonna end up with hermies man. Having 'some light' is not good enough - it always needs to be either total light, or total darkness. No in between. In between leads to hermies since you confuse the plant about the lighting.

And if you didn't want them to flower yet, then they should have been on 24/0 (meaning the real lights on 24 hours per day) or 18/6. When they're under 12/12 as you did, they'll start flowering whenever they're mature enough, which is exactly what they did. You could risk re-vegging them (meaning just put them under 24/0 now to revert back to veg state) or you could stick with the flowering and grow them out now.
 
thanks for the help, i was given these two from a friend and i wasn't quite ready. I've been reading stuff all morning and I've figured things out.

they are on 12 hours of light, but the light doesn't turn on until 11am, and it isn't in a dark room. I should cover them when the light isn't on shouldn't i?
 
a natural plant grown outdoors will never ever receive 100% total darkness. a little light at night is not going to hermie all plants only strains that are highly susceptible to herming. if what you guys said is 100% true then all mj plants that have grown naturally outdoors will hermie during a full moon and that doesn't happen.
 
Right, but very few people have lights that are comparable to the intensity of the full moon (which is very low, obviously). So yea, a few LEDs on electrical devices or something isn't gonna make your plants go hermie. But I get the feeling that he's referring to sun coming through the windows, which is definitely bright enough to mess them up. And yes, you are absolutely right that some strains are more susceptible than others. But since he doesn't know the strain, he ought to be careful about it.

You need to make it dark in some way. Either cover them up, or cover the windows up or where ever the light is coming from. Or switch the light cycle to start earlier if that will solve the problem. Don't switch it in one day, obviously. But move it by hour or half-hour intervals over a few days so it won't cause any problems.
 
well i just transplanted them on friday night, and they still look stressed. is that normal? looks a little droopy and some of the leaves are slightly curled. should I be giving them nutes at this stage?
 
Yes, you should be. Week 4/5 is a good time to start, and you're well past that, right? Give them veg nutes (approx. 20-10-10 NPK rating) at 1/4 strength of what the bottle recommends. Do it every 7-8 days (every other watering). I don't know if that's normal for transplanting, but I wouldn't freak out quite yet. Give them some nutes and a bit more time to settle into their new home.
 
Yes, you should be. Week 4/5 is a good time to start, and you're well past that, right? Give them veg nutes (approx. 20-10-10 NPK rating) at 1/4 strength of what the bottle recommends. Do it every 7-8 days (every other watering). I don't know if that's normal for transplanting, but I wouldn't freak out quite yet. Give them some nutes and a bit more time to settle into their new home.

thanks. does it matter which brand of nutes? is there a good one to get?
 
Yes, you should be. Week 4/5 is a good time to start, and you're well past that, right? Give them veg nutes (approx. 20-10-10 NPK rating) at 1/4 strength of what the bottle recommends. Do it every 7-8 days (every other watering). I don't know if that's normal for transplanting, but I wouldn't freak out quite yet. Give them some nutes and a bit more time to settle into their new home.

thanks. does it matter which brand of nutes? is there a good one to get?
 
There are tons that work very well. Just don't totally cheap out, and you shouldn't run into any problems. If you have a hydro store nearby, I HIGHLY recommend checking out their selection. Some popular brands include Fox Farms, Advanced Nutrients, Flora Nova (I think that's the name), and so many others. I'm personally using Fox Farms this summer...it's top quality, and pretty simple to use. As I said, there are plenty of great brands; just don't be cheap and it'll work great.

Oh and even more importantly: DO NOT OVER FERTILIZE. SO many people do this; more is not always better!! Start at 1/4 strength for the first few feeds, and as far as I'm concerned there's no reason to ever go above 1/2 strength unless your plants actually show nute deficiencies.
 
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