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OneHitDone

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Not exactly Stephen. Most of us have 100% Absolutely NOT (Especially You) been providing Human-Centric Lighting. If we had we wouldn't be Led Deficient in so many departments. The leds, not the plants I'm referring to. Only a few have began to incorporate HCL (GrowLightsAustrallia) the rest use monos to fill the gaps or they just say bump it & use the basic HE spectrum,. See, I've been studying Human-Centric for a year & understand it in more ways then one. Sure, Samsung just came out with a Human-Centric, Day n Night spectrum you can mix together with their 301h's, Lh351h n so forth. Multiple options.
Just to clarify. The existing white leds should all be on re-call but instead they are all being replaced with Human-Centric lighting for day & night. There are a shit ton of reasons behind this. One Prime Example is your Boy GG's. He has S.A.D.
And the key reason why Amare has always incorporated 470nm, not just because its obviously the color of the sky & a chloro peak. 470nm's and 430nn are the key nm's in increasing energy levels in humans, animals & plants. They are to be decreased at night & replaced with around 400nm to not mess up our melatonin levels. This is complicated stuff I've studied pertaining to plants, animals & humans in depth. That is how I know there is un-named, coincidal effects similar to the Emerson Effect but in the blue region.

BTW, This is my idea & has been for about a yr now for my new lights hitting the mkt within 6 months. Have paperwork & research going back a yr. There is more to it than just spectrum as well that is why it will be my idea not just some HCL tossed in.. My customers will fully understand this too..
Close enough will be the Bar-8 Hybridway Edition available real soon.
"Hybridway Tech" is not an Affiliate of any other company at the moment but of course I offered Victor a piece seeing how he's been leading spectral technology for plants for about 8 yrs now & i know he cares. Do not think he's interested as it is complicated & expensive. So its all me & That is why diffusion will be used in Hybridway Tech as well because i care about these growers allot more then I do the efficiency #'s.
We have ALL been waiting on the "SNOB" Board. Starting to think its not real? Now you have the tech to build it. Interested to see where you go with it. Goodluck!
BTW, The Diablo 650R is a beast. I'd say with 90% assurance that it would make an exact 1:1 replacement to 1200w DE as for results if it had IR. As for Par, I bet it lines right up. Killer light! Kinda wish we could swap for the Scoroion though so it fits my room & I can show monster plants that stretch, like i did with the 96's. Lmk if that's an option ok? Majority of my keepers are 200+% stretchers.
RN, I think your best bet is to create either small boards or pucks to supplement the spaces in the Scorpion as a quick fix to spectrum.
Diffuse that bad boy & smash most competition.
Not trying to be the Asshole I am, just trying to help after knowing you don't want it.
My Hortri-Centric lighting & fixtures will pave the way for all the guessing companies out there relying on customers feedback to make their next move.
Shout out to Green Genes :lol:
Come to think of it he has been a bit more chipper since incorporating some Far Red into the garden :peace:
 

OneHitDone

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It sounds like he's saying others are jacking Stephen's technology. If I'm wrong I'll admit my fault. When I was shopping for quantum boards I went with the manufacturer that was able to give me the best value for the dollars spent. As a result I did not purchase from HLG. I'm not saying Stephen isn't doing great work. His lights are fantastic. I believe they are drastically overpriced, and he is not the creator of the LED chips that makes these boards and bars possible.
What I'm saying is make sure all the lights upstairs are on before coming at me sounding like a fool.
If you've been around a minute you'd obviously agree the "hlg 550" looking light was clearly something brought forth by HLG themselves.
Now you see carbon copy's everywhere you look. There are a million ways to spread the diodes around for even distribution.
The laughable part is the QB format has been one of the shittiest at even distribution so why the hell would they even copy it?
Monkey see Monkey Do :dunce:
 

hybridway2

Amare Shill
It sounds like he's saying others are jacking Stephen's technology. If I'm wrong I'll admit my fault. When I was shopping for quantum boards I went with the manufacturer that was able to give me the best value for the dollars spent. As a result I did not purchase from HLG. I'm not saying Stephen isn't doing great work. His lights are fantastic. I believe they are drastically overpriced, and he is not the creator of the LED chips that makes these boards and bars possible.
I see. Naw, he's saying they stole the exact layout & covers n look while other QB companies have been easily able to make slight changes to trademark their own product.
A person should be able to look at 2 lights & tell they are from 2 different companies, would you not agree?
That's exact replica n not cool in my book.
 

hybridway2

Amare Shill
Shout out to Green Genes :lol:
Come to think of it he has been a bit more chipper since incorporating some Far Red into the garden :peace:
What, 730nm finally? Yeah, that will help his personality. Ill send him a free veg light as a mood light so he can come back to RIU a civil human being.
He needs to be using a combo of 660, 740+ 850nm held directly on his forehead to feel better though. Not kidding.
 

jonnynobody

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What I'm saying is make sure all the lights upstairs are on before coming at me sounding like a fool.
If you've been around a minute you'd obviously agree the "hlg 550" looking light was clearly something brought forth by HLG themselves.
Now you see carbon copy's everywhere you look. There are a million ways to spread the diodes around for even distribution.
The laughable part is the QB format has been one of the shittiest at even distribution so why the hell would they even copy it?
Monkey see Monkey Do :dunce:
The design is being copied because it's the cheapest way to assemble LED's to a structure thus far. Not because it's the best. McDonald's has more locations than any other restaurant in the world. Is it because they make the best cheeseburger? No. Why are they so successful and why do they have so many locations then? Because they found a way to do it cheaper than anyone else while still providing a reasonable value for the money. Quantum boards are just that. A reasonable value for the money, but certainly not the best way to spread the light created by the chips. However, if the alternative to my $504 660W quantum board is an $800 light bar that gets me a marginally better footprint utilizing strips instead of chips affixed to a board I'm saving $300 and buying the quantum board every time. Or I could spend $600 more + sales tax for a 650W HLG 650R to spread the panels further apart to increase the foot print. Yeah, no thanks. The most efficient way to spread the light and getting the most value for the money is to increase the quantity of small lower powered boards and spreading the light in that manner regardless of which vendor you order from.
 

jonnynobody

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I see. Naw, he's saying they stole the exact layout & covers n look while other QB companies have been easily able to make slight changes to trademark their own product.
A person should be able to look at 2 lights & tell they are from 2 different companies, would you not agree?
That's exact replica n not cool in my book.
Are we talking about counterfeit's or products that look nearly the same? There's a big difference, and it's the only difference that's relevant.
 

Scuzzman

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so if GLA(Grow Lights Australia) bring out new boards with a better spec than they have now(which is pretty bloody good as is) are you saying they have copied HLG or we could say they have seen the light and copied GLA and there specs ( with new lights on the way)- no one has a right to a design, you cant patent/tradesman( 2 different things) world wide unless you have extremely deep pockets which would never happen- hence China copies everything , not saying its right but thats business,
 

hybridway2

Amare Shill
Are we talking about counterfeit's or products that look nearly the same? There's a big difference, and it's the only difference that's relevant.
Products that look exactly same. Only one in each hand could dicifer. Or like Advanced Platinum LED making the same looking lights as Advanced led & bighting the name there. Budget led is a different type of light imo. Way different. Just looks alike when its off.
 

hybridway2

Amare Shill
so if GLA(Grow Lights Australia) bring out new boards with a better spec than they have now(which is pretty bloody good as is) are you saying they have copied HLG or we could say they have seen the light and copied GLA and there specs ( with new lights on the way)- no one has a right to a design, you cant patent/tradesman( 2 different things) world wide unless you have extremely deep pockets which would never happen- hence China copies everything , not saying its right but thats business,
Well, I am gonna do my best not to be copied. Manuactured in the US baby! They'll have to hand over their daughters if they copy my shit after signing my contract! Lol!
 

Relic79

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My comments notwithstanding, you have a sweet new light that should produce a beautiful spread of light. I'm looking forward to subbing to your journal. And you can feel even better about your purchase knowing you didn't overpay for the technology :)
Thanks! I know the thread has taken a turn in a different direction, but back to the original topic, the company I bought the light through has started a "croptober" sale, so that light is now on sale for $642.40 and I searched the internet and found a discount code for another 10% off making it $578.16 USD. I hadn't purchased it during the sale, but when I inquired, they refunded the difference. So far great experiences with their customer service!

I see. Naw, he's saying they stole the exact layout & covers n look while other QB companies have been easily able to make slight changes to trademark their own product.
A person should be able to look at 2 lights & tell they are from 2 different companies, would you not agree?
That's exact replica n not cool in my book.
The heatsink is a green flat sheet of aluminum, no fins, and the PCB boards do say infinity on them. Also, that guys Honda Civic sure looks like that other guys Corolla.

If an innovation works, it breeds competition. Eventually a standard emerges, and prices start to drop to where a consumers can afford a killer product and get choices of features like chain-able dimming, and switchable spectrum.

What is evident from this thread, is that some serious people with some impressive sounding knowledge seem like they are really trying to push the envelope, and in the end, that is always good for everyone.
 

jonnynobody

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Thanks! I know the thread has taken a turn in a different direction, but back to the original topic, the company I bought the light through has started a "croptober" sale, so that light is now on sale for $642.40 and I searched the internet and found a discount code for another 10% off making it $578.16 USD. I hadn't purchased it during the sale, but when I inquired, they refunded the difference. So far great experiences with their customer service!



The heatsink is a green flat sheet of aluminum, no fins, and the PCB boards do say infinity on them. Also, that guys Honda Civic sure looks like that other guys Corolla.

If an innovation works, it breeds competition. Eventually a standard emerges, and prices start to drop to where a consumers can afford a killer product and get choices of features like chain-able dimming, and switchable spectrum.

What is evident from this thread, is that some serious people with some impressive sounding knowledge seem like they are really trying to push the envelope, and in the end, that is always good for everyone.
Snap dude for $578.16 that's sounding pretty attractive. Great info on the croptober sale. That's very reasonable for a north american supplier. Budget LED seems like good people. Great products for a reasonable price from a north american based outfit. HLG could do the same. They just choose not to.
 

hybridway2

Amare Shill
Thanks! I know the thread has taken a turn in a different direction, but back to the original topic, the company I bought the light through has started a "croptober" sale, so that light is now on sale for $642.40 and I searched the internet and found a discount code for another 10% off making it $578.16 USD. I hadn't purchased it during the sale, but when I inquired, they refunded the difference. So far great experiences with their customer service!



The heatsink is a green flat sheet of aluminum, no fins, and the PCB boards do say infinity on them. Also, that guys Honda Civic sure looks like that other guys Corolla.

If an innovation works, it breeds competition. Eventually a standard emerges, and prices start to drop to where a consumers can afford a killer product and get choices of features like chain-able dimming, and switchable spectrum.

What is evident from this thread, is that some serious people with some impressive sounding knowledge seem like they are really trying to push the envelope, and in the end, that is always good for everyone.
Well said.!
 

hillbill

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There were “knock off” GM Delco Burke pads that appeared in the 80s that were perfect visual copies, down to the box. Highly experienced dealers and parts and service managers could not tell the difference.
Usable life of the pads was a few hundred miles, bought 2 sets for an 86 Cutlass myself.
 
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