New Grower - short and fat - hydro - Northern Lights

medco303 · Feb 5, 2017

im4satori said:
do you own the b52, overdrive or bud factor, or calmag?

As of today, the only things I have used are the 3 part AN, some Epsom, and Hydro-guard. I'll check the the percentages tonight when I check on them. Up to two gallons of water in 24 hours and ppms going down 50 per day. Making an order on Monday. What do you think are priorities to add to the AN nutes?

Thanks!

im4satori · Feb 5, 2017

full strength veg formula
per gallon
6mls grow
12 mls micro
8 mls bloom
1/4 tsp Epsom salt (1 gram)

full strength bloom fomula
per gallon
0 mls grow
10 mls micro
14 mls bloom
1/4 tsp Epsom salt (1gram)

for a slightly stronger EC/PPM mix it the same way with slightly less water
for a slightly weaker EC/PPM mix it the same way with slightly more water

keep a log and check your PH and EC/PPM daily
if your PPM/EC is rising thru the week, lower the EC/ppm
if your PH is dropping , lower you EC/PPM
if your PPM/EC is falling thru the week and your PH is climbing quickly, consider raising the PPM slightly

the goal is for the PH to rise and the EC to fall slowly over a few days 3 or 4
if it happens quickly you may need more nutes

never feed over EC1.5 for any reason

im4satori · Feb 5, 2017

you don't need anything else

just figured if you already had it we could use it up

the 3 part alone with no extras looks real good

your ppm dropping is a good sign

im4satori · Feb 5, 2017

im guessing this will mix up around 800 to 850ppm

depending on your source water and type of PPM meter

does your meter have the option of measuring EC?

if ever you replace it buy an EC meter next time

medco303 · Feb 12, 2017

im4satori said:
full strength veg formula
per gallon
6mls grow
12 mls micro
8 mls bloom
1/4 tsp Epsom salt (1 gram)

full strength bloom fomula
per gallon
0 mls grow
10 mls micro
14 mls bloom
1/4 tsp Epsom salt (1gram)

for a slightly stronger EC/PPM mix it the same way with slightly less water
for a slightly weaker EC/PPM mix it the same way with slightly more water

keep a log and check your PH and EC/PPM daily
if your PPM/EC is rising thru the week, lower the EC/ppm
if your PH is dropping , lower you EC/PPM
if your PPM/EC is falling thru the week and your PH is climbing quickly, consider raising the PPM slightly

the goal is for the PH to rise and the EC to fall slowly over a few days 3 or 4
if it happens quickly you may need more nutes

never feed over EC1.5 for any reason

That's golden, thanks. Curious as to how you came upon those ratios. I wish rollitup hadn't been down, I've already premixed today's reload. I have a large drum that I fill with 15 gallons of tap water. The ppm is 50 and the ph is 7. I let the water sit with no lid at least 48 hours as it becomes room temperature. I then add my nutes, hydroguard, epsom, and then ph down to 5.7. Then pump out the res and refill with fresh mix from the drum. I'm up to 150ml of each of the grow, micro, and bloom for the 15 gallons. That along with the B-52, and epsom, I'm hitting 900ppms. I expect within a day or two, the ppms will rise to 1100-1200. I then begin to top off each day with 2-2.5 gallons of ph'd tap water. Then do a res dump with a new batch in 6-14 days depending upon how the girls react. Next week I was going to up it to 180ml of each. But ill review your ratios. Thanks!

im4satori · Feb 12, 2017

if you ppms are rising then your over fertilizing

as a rule treat your resevior with these rules

ppm goes up, your over feeding (lower ppm)
ppm goes down, consider feeding more (maybe)

ph goes down, your over feeding (lower ppm)
ph stay still, your slightly over feeding
ph goes up slowly, your perfect
ph goes up quick, your under feeding (raise the ppm)

ppm goes down slowly and ph goes up slowly, thats the goal!

im4satori · Feb 12, 2017

as to how I got the formula......
I convert the % info listed on the bottles using a calculator (built on an excel spread sheet) which tells me exactly how many ppms of each individual element your fertilizer yields per gallon

in your case I had the advanced nute info saved so it was quicker

much like what you would expect to see if you had a sample of the solution sent off to a lab to have an analysis done

then I set your mixing parameters to what is a balanced mix of elements

I explain it more in my journal...your welcome to speak freely if you have questions
except currently all the pics of the info aren't showing

http://rollitup.org/t/satori-f2-x-querkle-male-project.930071/#post-13232369

medco303 · Mar 6, 2017

Need some advice..... Getting rust spots on all plants. PH dropping to low 5's. PPM at 750 and slowly dropping.

medco303 · Mar 6, 2017

im4satori said:
as to how I got the formula......
I convert the % info listed on the bottles using a calculator (built on an excel spread sheet) which tells me exactly how many ppms of each individual element your fertilizer yields per gallon

in your case I had the advanced nute info saved so it was quicker

much like what you would expect to see if you had a sample of the solution sent off to a lab to have an analysis done

then I set your mixing parameters to what is a balanced mix of elements

I explain it more in my journal...your welcome to speak freely if you have questions
except currently all the pics of the info aren't showing

Thanks! See below.

medco303 · Mar 8, 2017

something tells me the boys behind this forum fucked up! dead like my girls!

visajoe1 · Mar 14, 2017

medco303 said:
Need some advice..... Getting rust spots on all plants. PH dropping to low 5's. PPM at 750 and slowly dropping.

looks like ca deficiency. could be locked out because of ph. how are your roots?

medco303 · Mar 15, 2017

visajoe1 said:
looks like ca deficiency. could be locked out because of ph. how are your roots?

Roots look good. No slime, not bright white but over all good. PH dipping but keep it in the 5-6 range. Top leaves are getting crispy. middle and lower nice and green.

Thanks.

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