New fellar. Hey guys!

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c4ulater

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Figong said:
That'll help with chlorine for city/public water.. that's about it - the pH meter is the final answer in all things, and RO is well worth it unless you're just growing 2 plants. If you're growing 2-3 plants, and that's all you ever plan... you can sneak by with a Brita water pitcher.
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'Till I get the hang of things more or less - I'll be getting a R/O. But much further down the road. Unless it's really causing me headaches.

So heres the question Fi. After this grow - Should I jump into a hydro set up? Or should I still get some time under my belt with soil? I don't mind either way. Just need to kind of have an idea where or what I'll be investing my time/money into. I love information.
 
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c4ulater said:
'Till I get the hang of things more or less - I'll be getting a R/O. But much further down the road. Unless it's really causing me headaches.

So heres the question Fi. After this grow - Should I jump into a hydro set up? Or should I still get some time under my belt with soil? I don't mind either way. Just need to kind of have an idea where or what I'll be investing my time/money into. I love information.
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Would recommend at least 1 more grow after this one, you seem intelligent enough to pick up on info quickly which is good! Hydro will require PPM/TDS meter as well as pH... understanding pH vs PPM when one goes up, other goes down... and both doing erratic things is critical to sanity. You're welcome to try it after this one if you wish, I just figured that a bit more soil practice is good due to soil having a much bigger buffer for issues, as compared to hydro. Example... power outage - hydro/aeroponics = crispy roots in a short amount of time. Soil = no issue at all, except for a bit of stress (assuming power goes out during 'sun up' (lights on) On top of that, should you give Subcool's Super Soil a shot.. nutes are about self-sustaining - you'd just need to water as appropriate. Many options... so I will ask - What medium do you wish to play with / learn more about? Custom / homemade 'teas' and nutes can also go a long way, gives you hands-on in terms of mixing your own special blends to really dial in a strain / optimize things for beautiful healthy plants... and maximize yields vs. your investment. All of these things help when you start to play with SoG, SCRoG, multi-colas, LST, monstercropping, or any of the others I didn't name which helps in terms of yield, maximizing growth vs space, etc.
 
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c4ulater

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Figong said:
Would recommend at least 1 more grow after this one, you seem intelligent enough to pick up on info quickly which is good! Hydro will require PPM/TDS meter as well as pH... understanding pH vs PPM when one goes up, other goes down... and both doing erratic things is critical to sanity. You're welcome to try it after this one if you wish, I just figured that a bit more soil practice is good due to soil having a much bigger buffer for issues, as compared to hydro. Example... power outage - hydro/aeroponics = crispy roots in a short amount of time. Soil = no issue at all, except for a bit of stress (assuming power goes out during 'sun up' (lights on) On top of that, should you give Subcool's Super Soil a shot.. nutes are about self-sustaining - you'd just need to water as appropriate. Many options... so I will ask - What medium do you wish to play with / learn more about? Custom / homemade 'teas' and nutes can also go a long way, gives you hands-on in terms of mixing your own special blends to really dial in a strain / optimize things for beautiful healthy plants... and maximize yields vs. your investment. All of these things help when you start to play with SoG, SCRoG, multi-colas, LST, monstercropping, or any of the others I didn't name which helps in terms of yield, maximizing growth vs space, etc.
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Thank you :-) .. I wanted to give the Fox Farm Ocean Forest Mix on the Organic section. A good soil to were I don't need any kind of added nutes/chem from start to finish. So less complications!

In that thread he produced some real nice trees! :weed: He did 1wk of 18/6 then switched to 12/12. Yield some nice stuff - he did scrog and lst. I tried LST but since it was my first time trying it wasn't that good. + lack of work space. So I gave up and let it grew straight up. Anyways..

To answer you :

power outages : well this only happens if hurricanes roll around.. so rarely but could be a major problem with hydro. But for the most part - never experience any prblms.
ppm : This is one reason why (I remember now) why I haven't gone hydro. The understanding of PPM / TDS isn't full for me yet.

So I guess with that being said - I guess I'll give soil a few more runs actually. I'll keep reading on PPM's if you can either a) break it down for me b) direct me to some useful links.

Edit :

What does it mean when people say
" 2 part soil "
" 1 part (X)"

Idk what part means?! Lol

And in that guys post he says he F.I.M'd his plants. What????
 
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Figong

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PPM is done on 500 or 700 scale (or both/selectable) based on the meter.. 700 is what's normally used by those in the US and surrounding areas for true PPM - the 500 scale measures salt levels, and is the TDS (totally dissolved solids) measurement.

That said... the 'parts' are a ratio, in a nutshell.

3 parts perlite, 2 parts vermiculite, 1.5 parts pine bark, 3.5 parts peat would be a ratio of:

perlite/verm/pine bark/peat in a 3:2:1.5:3.5 ratio whether the total equals 4 ounces of soil, or 500 tons - the ratio in the mix stays the same... tis all there is to it. )

As for FIM - best illustrated with a pic, and will also show where to work with for topping, too.

 
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c4ulater

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I posted in Problems section and pictures of the plants . If you want to take a look?

Ah okay thanks ! Makes sense!
 
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c4ulater said:
I posted in Problems section and pictures of the plants . If you want to take a look?

Ah okay thanks ! Makes sense!
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Yup, will peek quickly before my morning starts - have to be out the door in 20ish minutes or so and will comment further when back after 6:30-7pm eastern
 
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c4ulater

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Figong said:
Yup, will peek quickly before my morning starts - have to be out the door in 20ish minutes or so and will comment further when back after 6:30-7pm eastern
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Thanks man. Todays my day off doing nothing but research! I'll be lurking all daayyyy.
 
doublejj

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Welcome c4, your doing fine & asking all the right questions. Spend a little time gleening thru some grow threads & you'll get all sorts of ideas.
Good luck..........and don't listen to those hydro guy's, they're all wet!lol!
Check out the outdoor page

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DrKingGreen

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On the picture taking topic... Make sure the camera you are using is NOT registered (this includes cell phone camera's). They would be able to hunt you down if they really wanted to via a registered camera... Don't see anything like that happening over 3 plants though. I'm a newb too man. I'm sticking to soil until I can really get a grasp of the deficiencies I may encounter and what they look like... I also like in a hurricane prone area and don't want to risk frying them all. You seem like a quick learner. Bet your first grow comes out just as good as mine has so far, if not better!
 
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c4ulater

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DrKingGreen said:
On the picture taking topic... Make sure the camera you are using is NOT registered (this includes cell phone camera's). They would be able to hunt you down if they really wanted to via a registered camera... Don't see anything like that happening over 3 plants though. I'm a newb too man. I'm sticking to soil until I can really get a grasp of the deficiencies I may encounter and what they look like... I also like in a hurricane prone area and don't want to risk frying them all. You seem like a quick learner. Bet your first grow comes out just as good as mine has so far, if not better!
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Not sure about that man!

I just transplanted the best one out of the four into a bigger pot w/ FFOF soil.

I think I'm going to do the FFOF "super soil" mix here soon.

Actually with the camera thing - I'm sure they arent going to be able to trace a picture like that. With that being said - it doesn't leave a phone number / address stamp on it , you know? Plus also if you upload it- it traces IP anyways.

Yeah - I'm going to work on figuring how to fix problems. First things first is me getting rid of this crap MG soil.

People say go to coco or hydro . I see that most of these medical growers use Coco/Perlite 50/50 mix. Cool and all but again - no experience / knowledge with that stuff yet.

I like to say I'm a fast learner- but it feels like its taking me some time to learn.


Thanks for the kind words though man.

I'd be more than happy to exchange more grow information with you :) Guess we can always do that via private messaging on this site?
 
DrKingGreen

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I use hotspot shield proxy server for everything I do on here. And the info from the pictures is encrypted or something into them. I don't remember exactly how it works, but if they were head hunting they could do it. That's why I use a camera registered to someone I don't like ;) lol not really
 
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c4ulater

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DrKingGreen said:
I use hotspot shield proxy server for everything I do on here. And the info from the pictures is encrypted or something into them. I don't remember exactly how it works, but if they were head hunting they could do it. That's why I use a camera registered to someone I don't like ;) lol not really
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I guess - but still . Theres no such thing as being able to hide unless you're a real computer genius.
 
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c4ulater

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Haha JJ! Love your work. You and 420 both inspired me to do the FFOF mix. Doing that soil mix for my next round :)
 
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O thank you sir! :hug:

I'm working on catching some worms now to start my own worm farm.

But I guess to speed things up I'll have to buy worm casting .. Damnit!!
 
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