Need some serious help!

Nootnam · Jun 22, 2015

My girls have just stopped growing and it started with some tiny brown dots on only a couple leaves on one plant and now they are all getting huge brown spots and the leaves are yellowing and just starting to look like shit. They are in a 50/50 of FFOF and happy frog. I feed with the happy frog all purpose and bone meal. Have no way to check pH and the temps are getting into the high 90s hear. The only reason im ruling out heat stress is because the leaves arent really curling up or anything but the shoots have stunted to a hault and the leaves are tiny. I want to fix this and get some good growth before they flower. I dont think it is the pH because they were all growing awesome and fast then out of nowhere started getting all these issues when i didnt change anything

Bud Tipps · Jun 22, 2015

The browning in the middle of the leaves looks like it's from ph fluctuation, or a root problem.

Buzz Buzzilla · Jun 22, 2015

Bud Tipps said:
The browning in the middle of the leaves looks like it's from ph fluctuation, or a root problem.

The browning is more to the tips and almost looks like potassium abundance? Also the plant seems to be deficient in N? Now I say looks and seems because it could be a micro nute problem and the only way to rule that out is to know what your water source is?

Bud Tipps · Jun 22, 2015

Yeah, it looks like there could be N and K issues.

rob333 · Jun 22, 2015

Nootnam said:
My girls have just stopped growing and it started with some tiny brown dots on only a couple leaves on one plant and now they are all getting huge brown spots and the leaves are yellowing and just starting to look like shit. They are in a 50/50 of FFOF and happy frog. I feed with the happy frog all purpose and bone meal. Have no way to check pH and the temps are getting into the high 90s hear. The only reason im ruling out heat stress is because the leaves arent really curling up or anything but the shoots have stunted to a hault and the leaves are tiny. I want to fix this and get some good growth before they flower. I dont think it is the pH because they were all growing awesome and fast then out of nowhere started getting all these issues when i didnt change anything

to much n u have burnt tips

abe supercro · Jun 22, 2015

Phosphorus deficiency. def. not too much N.

Hotboxbudz · Jun 22, 2015

Buzz Buzzilla said:
The browning is more to the tips and almost looks like potassium abundance? Also the plant seems to be deficient in N? Now I say looks and seems because it could be a micro nute problem and the only way to rule that out is to know what your water source is?

All of this ^. Also I can see a lot of what looks like spider mite damage.

DirtyMcCurdy · Jun 22, 2015

^^^Agree with @Hotboxbudz. Looks like you have spider mites. As to the yellowing. I'd say its root related.

Nootnam · Jun 23, 2015

So what do you guys recommend I do? Top dress with some dolomite to adjust any ph issue that may be there cause that could be causing lockouts.. I've never dealt with a root problem before so idk any remedies

Nootnam · Jun 23, 2015

Buzz Buzzilla said:
The browning is more to the tips and almost looks like potassium abundance? Also the plant seems to be deficient in N? Now I say looks and seems because it could be a micro nute problem and the only way to rule that out is to know what your water source is?

My water source is just plain tap that I use every year

Nootnam · Jun 23, 2015

You guys are saying too much k and not enough p.. I'm feeding with a 3-15-0 bone meal and a 5-5-5 all purpose. I highly dobut there isn't enough phosphorus

Hotboxbudz · Jun 23, 2015

Please post a pic of your whole plant. After looking it over again I think DirtyMc is right. I have a feeling it might be root bound. If it is, then it won't take up very much nutes and it can start to look like it has a deficiency.

Nootnam · Jun 23, 2015

Hotboxbudz said:
Please post a pic of your whole plant. After looking it over again I think DirtyMc is right. I have a feeling it might be root bound. If it is, then it won't take up very much nutes and it can start to look like it has a deficiency.

I will when I get home from work.. I pulled on the stems to see if it seemed like the roots where filling up the pots but it just tugged on the center of the dirt and felt like they would rip out instead of come out as a big root ball

Buzz Buzzilla · Jun 23, 2015

Nootnam said:
You guys are saying too much k and not enough p.. I'm feeding with a 3-15-0 bone meal and a 5-5-5 all purpose. I highly dobut there isn't enough phosphorus

Yep phos probably shouldn't be so high at the moment and so drastic in relationship to potassium. Are you using these at full strength? 8-20-5?..also I seriously suspect something is going on with the iron and manganese..here maybe this will help:

Lil green leaves · Jun 23, 2015

How can you grow and not check your ph...... fail...

Nootnam · Jun 23, 2015

Lil green leaves said:
How can you grow and not check your ph...... fail...

Lol dude cause its not science to me.. most growers on here will tell you that with soil, PH isn't all that important because most soil mediums out there have a stable PH.. unless you info is gonna help me then I can give a shit how much shit you talk

Buzz Buzzilla · Jun 23, 2015

Lil green leaves said:
How can you grow and not check your ph...... fail...

Nootnam said:
Lol dude cause its not science to me.. most growers on here will tell you that with soil, PH isn't all that important because most soil mediums out there have a stable PH.. unless you info is gonna help me then I can give a shit how much shit you talk

Wow guys...no need to be so judgmental as most people are here to learn....and to answer your question a lot of people get by with out checking ph because they have blind luck or the right amendments in their soil to correct high and low phs...ph is very important!!!!

Lil green leaves · Jun 23, 2015

Nootnam said:
Lol dude cause its not science to me.. most growers on here will tell you that with soil, PH isn't all that important because most soil mediums out there have a stable PH.. unless you info is gonna help me then I can give a shit how much shit you talk

Let me start off with a sorry.... I just don't see how one can grow without checking ph .... sorry for being so rude.... but you should really check ph.... you can buy a Lil ph checker for under 10 bucks

DirtyMcCurdy · Jun 23, 2015

Nootnam said:
You guys are saying too much k and not enough p.. I'm feeding with a 3-15-0 bone meal and a 5-5-5 all purpose. I highly dobut there isn't enough phosphorus

If anything, you are lacking potassium. You need to pack as much potassium as you can till it locks out magnesium, or calcium, then back off the potassium. Potassium is just as important as nitrogen, phosphorus comes next. Potassium is kind of the health element.

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