NEED HELP DESIGNING NEW GROW ROOM WOOT WOOT(:

j.21

j.21

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Hey RIU , long time no see. lost my old account info been a while. well lets get it started, so i have a spare room that im going to make a semi large grow in if you call it that. I only plan on having 1 grow here since im moving after this grow is done more then likly. I only have 2 grows under my belt:,( 1 indoor and 1 outdoor both pretty small and learned alot from both.
So what grow method shuld i use? soil or hydro? since i plan on growing once here would soil be simlpist?
should i just grow 20+ plants and flood room with plants and use a drip system for watering and let them grow free with no lst,pruning or anything at all?
or maybe maybe rows of plants and leave walk ways between rows to lst and attend plants?
i plan on running 4 1000 watt hps that i have acess to.

is a 800cfm exaust good enough and maybe a 200cfm intake?
dnt need a clone or veg space since only 1 grow cycle will veg all together n flower together prob all same strain or shuld i switch it up?

is 8lb dry realistic for this space?

should i remove closet doors and use it as grow space as well? sorry for all the questions lol but every responce is really appreciated! I will get the lights exactly a week from today, i will hold back in fans untill i know what size cfm fan to buy?
also the breaker box is in this room to so amps arnt a prob i will wire up a breaker for room!
thanks in advance ! will start grow around 2-4 weeks? so info is appreciated thanks!
 

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room measurements i see, and the closet.... (I did both, currently my dual door closet is doorless, but the doors are handily nearby, plan to put hydro res in there for next grow, away from light/heat) anyhow... I don't see where the door is, and which way it swings....?
Id go dirt if not gonna go all out n make it a full time thing, RDWC if u wanna grow trees.
If you are doing 4 1k's on a single shot grow, you may even want to consider vert growing for optimum output.
Id do one strain, pref. off clones. This gives you plants at the same stage of development, not 2/3 finishing, 1/3 still have 2 weeks to go, oh, and the one at the end turned out male and seeded tho whole room..... Fuck!
I <3 my clones :)

Gonna be setting up power, or working with what you have already installed/which is what?
Cooling plans/options? (windows, a/c, chillers, hoods/ducts)

I find you need approx 50-60% active air intake compared to exhaust, but thats me... Wheres your intake feeding from, and where do you exhaust to? Is carbon filtration and odor control a concern?
 
haha i think 99.9999% of the peoole are stoned as they type why would you have it any other way lol

wel anyways, the door opens inwards to the room on the right above the closet on the 4ft wall in the layout design. but i only need about 1-2 feet of door swing since theres no need to come in the room but me to attend the plants.

also for venting theres a pretty large window on the left 13ft wall its about 6ft long approx. i plan on blacking it out for light and only having two 6 or 8 inch holes for ducting, thats were ill vent from. also a carbon filter is a must since around the block my neighbor is part of task force ( like swat ) depends what your county calls it. but yea just my luck lol

so ill stick with one strain then u do have a point on finish times .. so for plant layout, should i do rows and have acess to attend and top/fim plants or jst fill the entire floor space with plants and make a jungle and lets the planta grow freely and say FTW? lol

So i decided take off closet doora and that give the room about 16-20 sq. ft. more so more plant!

im sort of leaning towards doing soil and scrog it but put the plants in rows so i can have acess.to attend plants what u think?
oh and thanks for the advice(:
 
also for electricty the room is wired on a seperate 10amp breaker .. thats going out the window and prob install a 30 amp depends on my final equipmmet choice then ill handle wireing once im certain and set on things. and do you think that 400~cfm intake and 800~cfm exaust is good enough for a room this size with 4000 watts? also do u think i should b ok with 4 1000watt hps lights?
 
this is sort of the layout i have in mind?New project 141205002127.png soil with scrog , the table with cirlce will be the plants with the screen roughly those shapes and that design layout . the 4 rectangles are my 1000 watt hps light, do you think thats a good layout for lights? seems sort of equal to me to share the light everywere?
ive seen 10x10 rooms with 2 1000 watts hps lights and yielded pretty good, my room is only a coule fert biggr so shouldnt be to much different?
as far as scrog do you think i should scrog or no? i was thinking scrog in 5 gallon buckets ontop of flood trays since i have carpe?
 
j.21 said:
haha i think 99.9999% of the peoole are stoned as they type why would you have it any other way lol

wel anyways, the door opens inwards to the room on the right above the closet on the 4ft wall in the layout design. but i only need about 1-2 feet of door swing since theres no need to come in the room but me to attend the plants.

also for venting theres a pretty large window on the left 13ft wall its about 6ft long approx. i plan on blacking it out for light and only having two 6 or 8 inch holes for ducting, thats were ill vent from. also a carbon filter is a must since around the block my neighbor is part of task force ( like swat ) depends what your county calls it. but yea just my luck lol

so ill stick with one strain then u do have a point on finish times .. so for plant layout, should i do rows and have acess to attend and top/fim plants or jst fill the entire floor space with plants and make a jungle and lets the planta grow freely and say FTW? lol

So i decided take off closet doora and that give the room about 16-20 sq. ft. more so more plant!

im sort of leaning towards doing soil and scrog it but put the plants in rows so i can have acess.to attend plants what u think?
oh and thanks for the advice(:
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shit, i'm one of the .0001% I guess, I'm not high on this site ever...
Anyways... Gotta match up your fans my friend, having two diff outputs is gonna be an issue, i'd get two 800cfm fans.
Think of it like a car, putting headers on your car won't do shit unless you have a free flowing intake and exhaust, in this case, an intake with half of the cfm than the exhaust is gonna choke the exhaust fan.
4-1000 waters though, eh?
gonna be a nice crop, I've never done over 1800 watts, (2-600 hps and one 600 MH)
If I may offer up one more piece of advice, if you are growing for a headstash and not $$, invest in at least one 1000 w MH, the added spectrum makes the end product MUCH nicer, it'll turn out totally different, Trust me, try it, and you'll never go back to using HPSs alone. Now if you are doing it for $$, just go with all HPS, you'll get more weight with all HPS, but the smoke on a mixed spectrum grow, is the best. Hands down.
The best is if you can do a 2/1 ratio of watts with hps and MH.
And for peak potency you can try the super blue MH bulb, haven't tried that one yet personally, it is less lumens than the normal MH, which Is already less lumens than a normal HPS, but with the wattage you are putting out, it shouldn't matter much.
 
j.21 said:
also for electricty the room is wired on a seperate 10amp breaker .. thats going out the window and prob install a 30 amp depends on my final equipmmet choice then ill handle wireing once im certain and set on things. and do you think that 400~cfm intake and 800~cfm exaust is good enough for a room this size with 4000 watts? also do u think i should b ok with 4 1000watt hps lights?
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oh, and you'll need more than a 30 amp, unless its on a 240.
For approx. 5,000 watts, I would wire a 240, for sure.
 
greasemonkeymann said:
shit, i'm one of the .0001% I guess, I'm not high on this site ever...
Anyways... Gotta match up your fans my friend, having two diff outputs is gonna be an issue, i'd get two 800cfm fans.
Think of it like a car, putting headers on your car won't do shit unless you have a free flowing intake and exhaust, in this case, an intake with half of the cfm than the exhaust is gonna choke the exhaust fan.
4-1000 waters though, eh?
gonna be a nice crop, I've never done over 1800 watts, (2-600 hps and one 600 MH)
If I may offer up one more piece of advice, if you are growing for a headstash and not $$, invest in at least one 1000 w MH, the added spectrum makes the end product MUCH nicer, it'll turn out totally different, Trust me, try it, and you'll never go back to using HPSs alone. Now if you are doing it for $$, just go with all HPS, you'll get more weight with all HPS, but the smoke on a mixed spectrum grow, is the best. Hands down.
The best is if you can do a 2/1 ratio of watts with hps and MH.
And for peak potency you can try the super blue MH bulb, haven't tried that one yet personally, it is less lumens than the normal MH, which Is already less lumens than a normal HPS, but with the wattage you are putting out, it shouldn't matter much.
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yea u do have a point on mis matching my cfm ill prob get out the market for 2 equal fans try to get the bet bang for my buck ...
and as fas as MH bulbs i was.going to buy 4 mh bulbs for veg since the ballast accept both mh and hps, so maybe ill keep the center light mh and the rest hps during veg give that a try?
 
greasemonkeymann said:
oh, and you'll need more than a 30 amp, unless its on a 240.
For approx. 5,000 watts, I would wire a 240, for sure.
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the lights are already wired to 110v can i have somebody rewire it back yo 220 or 240 volts? but im set on 30 amp break ill calculate the breaker at the end. lights are going to have a seperate breaker then all the fans and everything else.
 
jijiandfarmgang said:
sounds like to me you won't get it dialed in.

10amp breaker???

Just grow with a 1k-2k then move and figure it out.

- Jiji
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why u say that? and i never said i was keeping the 10 breaker?? read the post i said i was tossing the 10 amo breaker and relplacing that with a bigger one once i have all the equipment and calulate my peak and constant amp usage. and thnx for the comment but no thats , ill stick with my 4000 watts(: wouldnt go down to 2k for a room that size especially a 1000 watt for a room that size? thats jst kinda dumb dont u thinkk?? 0.0
 
Never saw a 10 amp 120volt breaker in a home. Thats why I said that.

I was being polite but if you have to ask all these basic questions you have some learning to do.

Which is fine, but trying to setup a 4k for 1 run, then move just isn't worth it. Personally, I think you would probably yield better with a 1k to 2k, because the environment will most likely be dialed in better as it is much easier.

- Jiji
 
jijiandfarmgang said:
Never saw a 10 amp 120volt breaker in a home. Thats why I said that.

I was being polite but if you have to ask all these basic questions you have some learning to do.

Which is fine, but trying to setup a 4k for 1 run, then move just isn't worth it. Personally, I think you would probably yield better with a 1k to 2k, because the environment will most likely be dialed in better as it is much easier.

- Jiji
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i asked the questions because my first 2 grows consisted of a 600 watt in a 2x4 witch came out great had 18.5 ounces dry witch i think is good for the space. but there will only be one grow here i have 2 10x10 tents and im moving to a home with a 2 car garage so ill continue to grow there i just want to take advantage of the extra room i have now that way i know what im up against with the 2 10x10 tents after i move. thats what i asked witch grow method should i use for a space like this even tho they still havent been answered? as of just flood the room and let it become a jungle or section it by rows? but thanks for your pointers although much appreciated!
 
mono crop soil/soiless/coco

4k hps do 5x5 footprint for each light. Start hanging lights on the other corner (farthest from the door).

Rows would be nice to walk around, but you'd be wasting a lot of light. It's Ideal for the light to overlap other light footprints.

Trellis, scrog or tomato cages

800 cfm exhaust probably won't be enough, are you using 8 inch air cooled hoods? Carbon Filters?

Get a brute trash can and put it away from light fill with water/nutrient solution get a cheap sump pump, hose, and spray wand

- Jiji
 
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jijiandfarmgang said:
mono crop soil/soiless/coco

4k hps do 5x5 footprint for each light. Start hanging lights on the other corner (farthest from the door).

Rows would be nice to walk around, but you'd be wasting a lot of light. It's Ideal for the light to overlap other light footprints.

Trellis, scrog or tomato cages

800 cfm exhaust probably won't be enough, are you using 8 inch air cooled hoods? Carbon Filters?

Get a brute trash can and put it away from light fill with water/nutrient solution get a cheap sump pump, hose, and spray wand

- Jiji
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what if between rows i just leave lets say 10 inches? jst enough to tip tow by since i really wanted scrog rows, i feel like its less square feet wasted compared to 5x5 tables? but ill keep that in mind? thanks for the info(:
 
also the hoods are 6 in cooled, and 800cfm intake and exause isnt enough u think? also a carbon filter is going to be used as well. New project 141206131319.pngwas thining rows like this with just 10inches between each row to maximize all space available to me it seems like itll work best so just might stick with it. well ill start a journal when i get everything up and going! thanks for the info peeps much appreciated!
 
I just meant 5x5ish footprints. So 2 rows of 2, inline.

You could make a space in there if you want to scrog.

In your layout I don't see how you could easily air cool the hoods. Also so many plants wouldn't get very much light.

I would forget about trying to use the closet space.

- Jiji
 
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