natural source for water retention

Discussion in 'Outdoor Growing' started by GoRealUhGro, Mar 5, 2018.

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    GoRealUhGro

    GoRealUhGro Well-Known Member

    So im sure this is a bug issue with you Cali fellars.. I have been using rotted wood chunks for aeration as well as water retention... I just make bigger pieces for the water retention as well as aeration... But im wordering what you guys use... Something you can make or gather preferably... When it gets really hot for a longer period of time i like to add some hay or some sort of mulch to the top of my pots.. Im growing guerilla style in organic soil... I know that doesn't play much of a role here in this situation but i thought id add it... I like my smart pots but ill be growing in some pots this year which should help some but im just looking for something to help hold a lil water... A couple of my spots will be hard to get to... And no water source around... Ill have to make rain catchers...any info will help.. Ty
     
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    too larry

    too larry Well-Known Member

    I've heard too much wood in a soil mix will take N away from the plant. I use lava rocks in my soil mixes. All the little holes hold water, then release it slowly. And I make raincatchers from two tarps. Get a big, good quality one for the tank. Tie knots at the corners, and tie to a small tree or good sized sapling about knee high off the ground. Water is heavy as hell, and will bend smaller bushes. A small cheap one will work for the collecting sheet.
     
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    GoRealUhGro

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    I dont think the wood i use robs anything... Its really rotted.. And plus i soak it in rabbit poop and kelp tea...sometimes i add more things depending on what i think i might need... I use to always do the tarp thing but i dont really want to do it around the place i have in mind... If someone sees it they would know something i think... Even kf its nlt close... I do alwayd set up rain chatchers in some way or another... Iv also usee a brown tarp and laid it on on the ground in a hole i dug... Kinda like a liner.... Laid rocks on top and sticks, leaves, dirt... Just to hide it.. Worked really well..
     
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    too larry

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    That would work too. I always worry going to my raincatchers. There isn't a lot of reasons for building on. But I do plant fruit trees in my woods near mine, so if I'm ever ask, I can point to them.
     
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    too larry

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    Have you seen how getaway mountain moves water in tarps? They will pour it from one tarp to the next coming down a hill from a creek. It takes a few folks to do it that way though. I'm sure I don't have to tell you that water is really heavy.
     
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    GoRealUhGro

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    Yep.. Getaway is the man... Everything im growing is from him this year... I dont think ill do anything like the tarps he does.. I wont be letting anyone at my patch this yr... Not after the helicopter deal
     
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    too larry

    too larry Well-Known Member

    That is the best policy. I tell my BIL in general terms where my grows are, but that i just so we don't step on each other's toes.

    Refresh my memory. What happened with choppers last year. Some of my patches were found last year. They did have the chopper, but also 5 cop cars. Some old fart saw me crossing the road right at daylight, and he stopped to talk. It was just a couple days later that all this went down. I still think that old fucker dropped a dime on me.
     
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    GoRealUhGro

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    It was 2 yrs ago now... I had a migraine one day at the mill i was working at... Ppl had been telling my the fly by boys were around my town.. But they came by here already... Idk how they didnt see jt then... Well i came home and i actually went to my gfs house.. And i wanted to come home and sleep so she drove me home... I just laid down and covered up my head and all the sudden i heard a fn roar... Right over my house... I went out and a national Guard heli was over my house w a guy and a huge camera taking pics.... I know they hadnt made it to my patch yet cause they came from the wrong direction... They knew it was there... Then they flew in a triangle from one patch to the other till some cops showed up and drove on my property illegaly... Plants were directly off my property but... Yea they repeled right down into my patch... All in all 9 loads of cops and some kinda fed, cop, cock wrangler idk were there... I actually went down to the cops... They were on my property and pulled guns on me... Shit hit the fan... I made up a story why i came... Which i didnt have to... They were on me ya know... But i watched them cut and drag all my shit out.. The Avatar is one i had in a 100 gal pot... That pic was takeb in mid july. It was like aug 2 or 3 ish when they hit me... They wouldnt let me leave the woods either ..and me and a couple cops went at it... They cant make u do shit in that situation... They found my cameras and thought they had me.. Not... But they kept them too.. Fags
     
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    GoRealUhGro

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    They got nine total.. All wluld of went well over a lb except one in a 18 gal tote... It was a 3d gen i had grown from a bag seed years back.. It was the only see i had glt off the whole plant... Idk how.. It never had any males around it and im sure it nevrr hermied.. Made me think someone was growing close by... The other 8 were diff phenos of incredible bulk.. 707 truth band.. And i think thats it.. Maybe a bubbas gift
     
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    too larry

    too larry Well-Known Member

    I remember now that you told me. That sucks to lose the weed, but at least you didn't go to jail.

    Mine were not huge, but three of them were in a wet weather pond place, right out in the open. That was dumb on my part. I had done it in the spring crop, but should have known better than try it in the summer. They chopped those three. A Peach {bag seed} and two GdR, but one of them was a male. The loss of the seeds pissed me more than anything. I'm almost out of GdR seeds, and haven't done a IBL yet.

    But all the cop cars were down at my camp. I had 3 patches around my pond, all small as fuck. This was late June, and I hadn't planted until late May. They pretty much knew the others were mine, but never said anything one way or the other. The scary part was I had over a unit at my camp. Just tarps, paracord and an old tent. I went an hour away hiking the next day, and drove back in at midnight to get my stash. I parked a mile or so away, walked in and packed it out. All without using my headlamp. I was so fucking scared.

    I didn't go back to those patches, assuming they were chopped too. 4 months later I did go back, and they were still there. All dead, but still there. I picked it to get the seeds.

    Now I'm very skiddish about where I plant. The pond was great for my spring crops. I hate that I fucked that up.
     
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    too larry

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    I forgot to mention I did have a big Peach male down there that I had chopped that morning. Not sure if they had spotted it from the air earlier or not.
     
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    GoRealUhGro

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    My other patch didnt get found.. But it was only one plant... I was so scared going down to it.. I figured they set up counter surveillance somewhere...i think the cops knew it was me but they couldn't prove it... I made them a lil confused by going down there and asking if i could see the plants lol... I told them i had been down there just a few days ago picking berries... They asked if i still had them and i did... But they didnt check... The one plant i did have was very neglected.. Id say i would of got more bud from one big branch or two from my good ones.. It was my botteled nute experiment plant... Pos turd lol... But yea.. No prison or jail time... Lost about 40k though...a lb of kb tipe bud can easily be broke down and sold for 6400 lol.. Sad i know
     
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    thumper60

    thumper60 Well-Known Member

    I have used cut up sponges in the bush,but that was before water polymars
     
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    GoRealUhGro

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    Never though of that tbh... Wonder if it would hold any nutes in it... Id say they would wash out if watered enough anyhow
     
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    thumper60

    thumper60 Well-Known Member

    have u ever used water polymars u wont believe how much water they hold
     
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    GoRealUhGro

    GoRealUhGro Well-Known Member

    No i haven't.. I actually dont even know what they are.. Might when i see them.. Ill look them up soon..im working atm
     
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    thumper60

    thumper60 Well-Known Member

    1 cup easly soak up 5 gals the roots grow right into them, get them out early so they can expand before planting
     
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    GoRealUhGro

    GoRealUhGro Well-Known Member

    Hell.. Thats nuts... Ill be looking into that for sure
     
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    thumper60

    thumper60 Well-Known Member

    kelpforless goggle it
     
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    GoRealUhGro

    GoRealUhGro Well-Known Member

    I will.. Thanks thump
     

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