N toxicity
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ayr0n
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i don't think it will directly impact trichome production, but N toxicity can retard flower development so if you don't correct it you can end up w/ shitty colas that don't fill out properly or have abnormalities / odd growth if the problem persists into flowering. She's still in good enough shape to bounce back n be fine tho imo...
gunnar&carey
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Thanks man, i agree the waxy look is all thats wrong i got about three wekks left so ima start to cut back on nutes for the next two weeks and let her fill out
gunnar&carey
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I guess i could've added that ya the edges are curling same with the tips and i mean they look like wax man
Alexander Supertramp
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What are the ratios of your nutrients? High P nutrients can also cause a glossing of leaves.
Uncle Ben
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What's this N toxicity stuff? I see no info in your posts that would give us anything to determine what the "problem" is. What's the NPK of your foods?
They look fine to me, and no, high N foods during flowering will not screw up flowering. Quite the contrary. It's N that supports leaves and its leaves that drive bud production, NOT bloom foods that usually work against the gardener but FOR the vendor because he knows that's what you've been brainwashed to believe and buy. He's only in it for the money, so, he sells you what he thinks you want and could care less about the health of your plants.
Many a time I've used a slow release 18-4-9 from start to finish with excellent results.
Word to the wise - get off the forum myth teat and learn plant nutrition.
UB
gunnar&carey
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Google N toxicity glossy leaves i was getting curling and waxy leaves thats early sign of over feeding N im using floranova bloom and havent fed straight water for a week plus N toxicity slows down bud development in flower IMO
gunnar&carey
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I tend to think of N toxicity as an NPK ratio too high in N. Overfeeding can result in symptoms of N toxicity (I've seen it myself). But, the primary cause is overfeeding, not that there is too much N in the nutrient solution. I.e., if the nutrient solution is weakened, the N toxicity disappears (with the next plant at least).
In your picture I don't even see the blackish green nor distinctive claw. All I see is gloss. So.... I'd say overfeeding.
If you continue as is and measure your runoff PPMs you'll probably see them rise as salt builds up in the soil. In early flower you'll see nute lockout. If it's overfeeding, I'd feed water only the next watering, then feed 1/2 what you feed (being prepared to move up to 2/3). You might also feed with more runoff to help push out unused nutes. This could let you feed stronger with less risk of overfeeding.
Uncle Ben
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You're feeding with a food that contains no N (0-5-4) and think you have a N toxicity issue just because the leaves are glossy, which really doesn't have any real world significance regarding plant health?
OK
You best start giving them plenty of N or you'll end up with yellow leaves and consequently low yields.
Blind leading the blind.
UB
Uncle Ben
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18-4-9, outdoors. About as high of an N food as you can provide, and, right up to harvest.
I took this shot to show the influence of Bonzi (paclo) soil drenches on internode length but it's the same very high N food. Once applied, it's (Polyon 18-4-9) there for good.
Uncle Ben
Is there any difference doing that in outdoor soil vs. indoor potting mix? Someone recently said outdoor soil can handle more extreme ratios. I don't know, but wouldn't have thought about going over 3-x-x.
woody333333
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Cpappa27
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What's so sad about his perfectly healthy plants?
woody333333
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grassy......... perfectly healthy is a stretch
Cpappa27
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I don't know what you mean by grassy. One of them looks like its still in veg so yeah it's supposed to be leafy , and the others have colas the size of your head and popcorn buds the size of your brain.
