My Third Grow: Led AF-135 / Ebb & Flow / Sog / Cotton C;Strawberry C;Black Jack

watonv

Member
Hi Guys im from Chile in South America and this will be my first grow journal in here and the third grow in my life.
The first one was with Soil and HPS250, the second one with soil, scrog and 2 bonsai hero panels.
I have veg 3 plants with 2 60watts cfl's in the flowering room with ebb & flow system, i have kill the 3 plants and make arround 12 clones of the small plants and arround 25 clones of the Cotton Candy.


The Genetics

- Delicious Seeds Cotton Candy
Indica/Sativa 25/75
Production Large
% THC: 20%
Flowering Period 60 - 70 days (9 to 10 weeks)
Genetica Power Plant x Lavender (Super Skunk x Big Skunk Corean x Afghani-Hawaian)

- Dutch Passion Strawberry Cough
Sativa/Indica 80/20
Production M
% THC: 11.9%
Flowering Period 60 - 70 days (9 to 10 weeks)

- Sweet Seeds Black Jack
Sativa/Indica 50/50
Production L/XL
% THC: 16% - 21%
Flowering Period 60 - 70 days (9 to 10 weeks)
Genetics: Black Domina x Jack Herer


The Rooms!
The Clone and mother room:
Room: Old furniture that i have modified 27''x16" x 20" High
Lights: 3 x 18 watts fluoresecent tubes
Light Cicle: 24/0
Air Exhaust : 90m3/h extractor working 15min per 2 hours.
Air Intake: Pasive
I have a Heating Matt (with a digital termostate set in 25°C) for the clones and also the dome, so thats covered.

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The Flowering Room

- Room: Dark Room II 60 (23''x23''x5,25'')

Light
- Light: Area 51 : AF-135, 255watts (ratio 13:2 of 4250k and red)
- Light Cycle: 12/12

Air
- CO2 System: the room is completly sealed and has no Intake, just an exhaust fan.
The system consist in a 20 lib. CO2 bottle with regulator, solenoid, flow meter and a digital timer.
The system calcs: my Grow room area: 21.2 cubic feet, the amount of CO2 required: 0.02756 cubic feet, the time i need to have it on with a 0.8 CFH is 2.067 minutes.
So with that explained, the system works 30 min before the light starts, then 2 and a half hours I exhaust for 5 min (more than enought to exhaust the air inside), the systems starts again for 2 min leaving the room between 1400 and 1600 ppm.
The system is on for 5 times during lights on, the last time its on is 2 and a half hours before the lights go of, so when the ligths are off the tent has its standard (200 to 400 ppm).
- Air Exhaust: Dospell Inline Turbo 125 (170m3/h in low speed) with a Koalair Carbon Filter 100/150 with a 180m3/h capacity.
- I have 2 x 16" fans moving air Inside. One in front the other (opposite corner).


Water: The Hydroponics
I have a 16" x 23" x 8" tall concrete mixing tray with botanicare fittings, its filled with 40 litters of hydroton clay pebbles.
The reservouir: Its a 16liter reserv, but i used it with 12 litters, inside it has 2 pumps, one for filling the tray and one for mixing the solution.
Also it has the heating device set in 21°C (with termostate) and 1 air pump with just 1 stone to oxigenate the solution.
The mixing pump and the air pump works 15 minutes just before the flooding pump starts.
The flooding pump works 2 minutes 3 times a day every 5 and a half hours (the first one goes just when the ligths are on.
The Ec rises throught the hole procces and the PH is stable between 5.8 and 6.2
I Also use 1/5 of No Mercy Tabs each day!

I use the Hanna Grotcheck HI991404 continuous monitor pH / EC/ TDS indicator and thermometer
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The Food
Base Nutrients:
-Advanced Nutrients Connoseiur A+B
Advanced Nutrients extras:
-Big Bud
-B-52
-Overdrive
-Piranha
-Bud Candy
-Final Phase
-Rhino Skin
Other extras:
-Delta 9
-Bloombastic
-Rootbastic
-Atami AWA Leaves A + B
-Atazyme

This is the Food Chart (its a guideline, because i have seem that with that amounts of cc/Lt the EC rises a lot, so im testing the products alone before start the flowering period to see if the EC goes to High.
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The parameters
Flowering Room
Humidity: 50% - 78%
Temperature: 18°C - 28°C
CO2: 1400 - 1600 ppm

In the Hydro tray im gonna put between 20 to 25 clones (im thinking that, i dont know if its too much, but the clones are between 5 and 6 inches)
And im gonna put 5 clones in soil, each one in 1lt pot.
So im thinking of getting between 25 and 35 clones in the tent to maximize the power of the leds, i know its a small space, but magic can be done hahaha.

Here are some photos of the vegetative state of the plants, when i get home ill put up some clones photos and some photos also of the flowering room ready to receive the clones.

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In a couple of hours im gonna upload the flowering tent ready to recieve the clones.

Hope you like it guys!!!
 

watonv

Member
Hi guys

Heres the Flowering Room ready to recieve the clones, i think they are gonna be ready on sunday (10 days 24/0) or next wednesday.

The photos.

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Heres a bonus of my best friend with his sidekick, my black leaf bong, its pretty awesome hahaha i have a black leaf ash catcher also and the bho kit.
I have tried a lot of grinders, and the mendo mulcher its the champion.
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Heres some pics of my past grow, a scrog with C+ and WW.

41 days of flowering
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5 days before the cut
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READY TO CUT
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With few days of drying

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Well guys Ill Upload some more photos when the clones are ready to go in the Flowering room.

Good Smoke!!
 

rippn13

Well-Known Member
Nice work. I have an a-51 135 and didn't realize it was 255 watts. It has always impressed me but at 255 I know why. Keep up the good work.
 

watonv

Member
Nice work. I have an a-51 135 and didn't realize it was 255 watts. It has always impressed me but at 255 I know why. Keep up the good work.
Thaanks!! Im pretty anscious for the magic to start, i have just hear and seen BeefBisquit journals and seen amazing buds!
First i was a little concerned for the spectrum, but the light they gave its awesome!!!

In a few days ill update this!

Thanks for passing!!
 

watonv

Member
Hi guys i finally put my clones into my flowering room, I pretend having them on 24/0 for 3 to 5 days so they can root well and get firm.

This is a bad drawing i have made with paint XD its explain my system better.
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The Reserve has 13 litters of destiled water raised up with cal mag up to 0.38 EC.
Nuts:
- 0.2cc x Lt Rootbastic (2.6cc total)
- 2cc x Lt Atazyme (26cc total)
- 1cc x Lt AWA Leaves A + B (13cc each)
- 2 grams of piranha
- 1cc x Lt B-52 (13cc total)

That gives me a EC of 0.83
PH Fluctuates between 5.7 and 6.2, when its on 6.2 i lower ir again.
The lights are 28" high from the canopy

Here are some pics.

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Hope you like it!
In a few days im gonna update when they are switched to 12/12
 

watonv

Member
Well guys
Heres un update, they where left for settle foe one week, know i have chainged the reservouor with an EC of 1100 and ph 5.78

They are going to veg for 3 or 4 more days and then to flowering, the average height is 13cm they are between 10cm and 15cm so i think when the smallest ones get 13cm or so ill flower them

The first row is strawberry cought, the 2 and 3 are cotton candy and the 4 and 5 are black jack.

These week im instaling the CO2 Kit for full flowering,

Also they were foliate with 4cc x LT of Delta9 !!

Also im using only 2/3 of the Area 51 AF-135 power waiting for flowering =D

the temps are beetwen 70F - 86F
Humidity between 50% - 80%

Heres a pic of the ladies, for my next grow im gonna go with barneys farm acapulco gold and medical seeds malakoff!!

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Keep it smoking!
 

watonv

Member
Well guys here are some yesterday pics.
Ive had P deffiency but its over since i changed the reservouir.
(Im guiding with AN non PH Perfect table, using a moderate light feeding squedule
EC Arround 1625
PPM 1138
PH between 5.8 and 6.3

Im gonna use just 2 rows of my af-135 because the heat rises up to 35°C, with 2 rows i get max and stable 28°C with 19°C minimum.
So im gonna go with arround 180-190 watts) maybe ill use my hole closet for 2 ebb and flow systems so i can flower different flowering time seeds, i wanna go with some 120 days sativas and some 80 days hibrids with arround 80% sativa.
My next grow im going with 1024 and malakoff, both sativas from Medical Seeds with 75-80 flowering days.

Also ive had added my co2 bottle system wit solenoid and a flowmeter with range between 0.1 and 2.0 scfh, im in 0.6 scfh for 3 minutes every 2:45 hours in day time.
9 Flowering Days (at day 6 some of them already show their private parts bongsmilie)

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My partners, Mondo Mulcher 3'' and Black Leaf Blaze Bong 50cm with its double chamber ash catcher
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Hope you like the photos
Bless
 

BubbaGum

Well-Known Member
Nice grow, very methodical. Question, did you get a special spectrum on your Af 135, like custom diodes? Or just the base one like me?
 

watonv

Member
Nice grow, very methodical. Question, did you get a special spectrum on your Af 135, like custom diodes? Or just the base one like me?
Thanks Bubba, i have asked for the af base on spec ratio 13:2 of 4250k and red.
They have told me they use that spectrum with great results so i did go with that
 

PSUAGRO.

Well-Known Member
Is their a reason why you don't use your Hans panels anymore (bonsai hero)?? Wanted to try new shit or didn't like it's performance?

Very nice grow setup and grinder:-P
 

BubbaGum

Well-Known Member
Thanks Bubba, i have asked for the af base on spec ratio 13:2 of 4250k and red.
They have told me they use that spectrum with great results so i did go with that
Excellent, I'm glad to hear it. I'll be following along!
 

watonv

Member
Is their a reason why you don't use your Hans panels anymore (bonsai hero)?? Wanted to try new shit or didn't like it's performance?

Very nice grow setup and grinder:-P
Thanks Psuagro, the reason why is im a little overloving my ladies guy hahha so i want the best for them, in these case i wanted more watts,
maybe in my next grow ill use my hole closet 3.2 x 2.8 so its a little more bigger and in there i could use the 3 rows instead of the 2 im using know, but one case or another ill get more watts from 2 rows than 2 Hans panels. And also love the thing they are modular so if something is bad you can be change easy.
The other thing i like is that they do expele heat so know in winter they love the extra heat.
Hope to be arround 150 and 200g with 190watts of AF

Thanks for hanging arround!
 

Highocaine

Well-Known Member
Amazing setup, love the hydroton flood tray. Do you have to flush through the top occasionally to reduce salt buildup? Also, subbed.
 

watonv

Member
Amazing setup, love the hydroton flood tray. Do you have to flush through the top occasionally to reduce salt buildup? Also, subbed.
Highocaine, what i do is vert from the top 10lts of tap water and then throw that water away, like a flush, every20 days or so, the i used ro water and i raise it to ec0400 with a calmag maid by me.
so basically flush it every 15-20 days.
Also im not using anymore that tray with asphaltic non toxic impregnation.
it also liberates some of the cover for some days and i think that is the problem of my constant ph raising, its smakl variations, but every two days i have to regulate ph to 5.8 raising my ec with my ph down made by me also with sulfuric acid, i was really high doing that mega concentrated by i still burn a little my hand hahahaha with gloves included xd

im waiting my panda roll for using in my new grow tray, same dimentions but cover wirh the panda film 0600mc
and also ask for some 3,75 hydro baskets so i can put 20 in the tray and in the future 15 in other tray with 2 different hydro systems so i can pur my regular 60-70 days flowering girls and put some pure sativas with 120 flowering days, that would be the only thing i want, taste the original flavours and highs, im a little mistic for my things, im also cutting my 6 row of psilocybes cubensis B+ awesome awesome awesome! And also i have a clone of salvia divinorum treating it for spiders so im a cosmic traver hahaha but the thing is nature is my goddes and my guidance, i fish and also spearfishing apnea, here the water is 12•C or so and the pacific has nothing of pacific xd

sorry if i wrote a lot, but my bong made me speak or write a lot.

Thanks guys!!
 

PSUAGRO.

Well-Known Member
Thanks Psuagro, the reason why is im a little overloving my ladies guy hahha so i want the best for them, in these case i wanted more watts,
maybe in my next grow ill use my hole closet 3.2 x 2.8 so its a little more bigger and in there i could use the 3 rows instead of the 2 im using know, but one case or another ill get more watts from 2 rows than 2 Hans panels. And also love the thing they are modular so if something is bad you can be change easy.
The other thing i like is that they do expele heat so know in winter they love the extra heat.
Hope to be arround 150 and 200g with 190watts of AF

Thanks for hanging arround!
Nice man! your english is pretty good for a stoner:)............I forgot you guys are in the winter season now and need the heat..... well anyways you could still use the hans panels for side lighting and really blast them.

ill be watching friend and keep up the good growing........Is that your grow (chile) on Hans website reviews???
 

watonv

Member
Nice man! your english is pretty good for a stoner:)............I forgot you guys are in the winter season now and need the heat..... well anyways you could still use the hans panels for side lighting and really blast them.

ill be watching friend and keep up the good growing........Is that your grow (chile) on Hans website reviews???
Thanks again!
yeap thats my grow in Hans page and somefriend grow too.
Ill consider putting hans panels for side when i use the hole closet that would be 367watts in a 3.3 x 2.3 space. But first i want to know if using 190watts i can be between 150 and 200, hopefully get 1gr/watt, i have never used co2 so i think i have to get better results.
hopefully my next grow would be the best cause i get the hands on hydro with leds and get use and learn more fore nuts and amounts.
but i think im going well, the pistils are all over know and its just day 10, know is when the good part comes!!
thanks for your words Psuagro, i have study my hole life in a british school, so thats a good thing when i go to the us or any other country with english is spoken.
p.d. Love your grow!
 

watonv

Member
P.d. The strawberry cough clones have generated side branching matching the height of the main branch, that made me happy, more colas for me hahhaha
 

Highocaine

Well-Known Member
The only thing that you could do to impress me more with the potential of this grow would be to mainline the bitches ;D
 

MarioMadness

Active Member
Very impressive for such a small setup! Love the res/flood design, usage of co2 and vast list of nutrients!
defiantly showing lots of love and care! they shall reward you!
 

watonv

Member
Very impressive for such a small setup! Love the res/flood design, usage of co2 and vast list of nutrients!
defiantly showing lots of love and care! they shall reward you!
Thanks a lot Mario, tomorro in the morning comes to 2 flowering weeks, and already sincr day 6 producing flowers so i yhink i can get awesome nugs from here, also getting something arround 1g/watt
Ill get some new photos tomorrow!
Thanks for passing by, hope you stay.
 
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