Yesdog
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i got mites from that clone i got from the dispensary =\
My setup, any thoughts? Yields?
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Roger A. Shrubber
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might not be a bad idea to wash the walls down with bleach water, and i'd get a can of killz and paint the cinderblock walls white, get a lot more light bouncin back.
and...i'd lose the carpet, maybe paint the floor right there white too.
you're going to have little spills and splashes, and leaves die and fall occasionally, be a lot easier to clean up on a bare floor
and...i'd lose the carpet, maybe paint the floor right there white too.
you're going to have little spills and splashes, and leaves die and fall occasionally, be a lot easier to clean up on a bare floor
Internode
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Yeah, Dude, 2 600 watt HPS would be very nice... you could run the two lamps over 4 or 6 sites and do pretty well, all 8 sites???maybe... In hydro the idea is efficiency, yield, and trying to eliminate waste ESPECIALLY in nutrients. That is a big reservoir, you are going to have to factor that into how you manage nutrients if you aren't gonna match the capabilities of the system with lights.. It will be way easier to limit plant quantity based on light output, so, say you run 2 600watt HPS lamps over 4 sites which I think is a good matchup, you will only need to use half of your reservoir and half of the nutrients... There is no point in wasting nutrients on poorly lit plants.. IMO, plant what you can properly light, and properly feed what you plant and you will do way better than planting what you cannot properly light and wasting nutrients on half of the crop. 2 600 watt lamps and 4 plants could net you ~40 OZ with your $$nutrients spent on well lit plants. With 2 600 watt lamps and 8 plants with a net of maybe 60 OZ where you spend more $ on nutrients and get maybe 20 more OZ of stretchy fluffy crap bud, not to mention the possibility of nutrient imbalances caused by the extra 4 sites impacting the results of the sites that are well lit... Moral of my story, if you can only afford to do a few the right way you will benefit more than half assing all 8...
Roger A. Shrubber
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that sounds like good advice to me
Olive Drab Green
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COBs are where it's at. The PPFD of a 400-600w of HPS using only 89w. They are more expensive unless you DIY, but they'll save you a large bill in the long run.
I recommend TastyLED for prefabricated LEDs, I like them a lot, because they are the only company I have found so far driving at least one of their selections at 2150mA. Everyone else uses nothing but multiple units running 1050-1400mA. I am only running two plants in a closet, so I use two Tasty T1-2100s. His other models use the lower amperages, but the T1 I have complete confidence can do one plant. I'd put 3 each or a T3 over each row of yours, personally.
I recommend TastyLED for prefabricated LEDs, I like them a lot, because they are the only company I have found so far driving at least one of their selections at 2150mA. Everyone else uses nothing but multiple units running 1050-1400mA. I am only running two plants in a closet, so I use two Tasty T1-2100s. His other models use the lower amperages, but the T1 I have complete confidence can do one plant. I'd put 3 each or a T3 over each row of yours, personally.
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Internode
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Yep, thank you. I come from experience with scrog and hydroponic efficiency. My all time best was 14 oz off of 1 scrog plant and 1 250 HPS lamp.... MasterKush!
Honda9898
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Do you think two 1000w would provide enough light for all 8?
Roger A. Shrubber
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maybe but you'd probly get better coverage and more actual par using 3 600s than 2 1ks, at least thats what all the diagrams i see over in the lighting forums seem to be saying
Honda9898
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It was an impulse buy, but I just bought three 600w mps/mh lights. That should work out perfect. Any guesses on possible yield with some light topping and fimming?
Roger A. Shrubber
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if you pay attention to good advice and have luck with pests and other problems, i'd think you should get at least that
Yesdog
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I think the standard 'meter' around the forums is 1g per watt. That seems to be what people shoot for
Yesdog
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probably not very- there's so many other factors. But, it does seem to be a standard people try to shoot for (or over shoot)
Roger A. Shrubber
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thats kind of the "you're not a newb anymore" mark, when you can consistently hit 1 gram per watt. then the big boys start giving you shit till you hit the 2g per mark 
i'm still a newb, i'm only averaging about .65-.75 per watt at the moment, and i'm actually pretty happy about it, when i started 2 years ago i was averaging .25 per watt
i'm still a newb, i'm only averaging about .65-.75 per watt at the moment, and i'm actually pretty happy about it, when i started 2 years ago i was averaging .25 per watt
Yesdog
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haha, yea at this point in this grow, im shooting for 0.5thats kind of the "you're not a newb anymore" mark, when you can consistently hit 1 gram per watt. then the big boys start giving you shit till you hit the 2g per mark
i'm still a newb, i'm only averaging about .65-.75 per watt at the moment, and i'm actually pretty happy about it, when i started 2 years ago i was averaging .25 per watt