My reoccurring nightmare.

Discussion in 'Marijuana Plant Problems' started by Zefito, Dec 4, 2017.

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    Zefito

    Zefito Member

    Hello everyone,

    So, I decided to follow advice and start fresh, planted a new seed. Again, the lower fan leaves are starting to have sighs of drying out leaves. All signs show nitrogen deficiency, I just don’t know what I’m doing wrong. Like my previous grows, it’s an reoccurring problem. I know the ppm is low but the all mix should cover the rest. Their growing chart, recommends 1ml through the whole grow.

    Thanks





    Tent: LightHouse MAX 0.5m

    Lights DIY Vero 29 @ 150watts @ 19/5

    Vent : TD-160/100 TD SILENT

    Soil : 2 weeks in bio bizz light mix - re-potted in organic All mix with a tablespoon of bat guano mixed at the bottom of the pot

    Pot: 14L
    Temp :24-26c

    RH : 60-70%

    Fertilizer Bio bizz grow, heaven and Acti-Vera 2ml each in 2liters of water

    Watering: RO tap water PH 7 soil runoff and PPM 500

    6 week old vegetative

    Strain Super Skunk Nirvana feminized.

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    Canadain Closet Gardener

    Canadain Closet Gardener Well-Known Member

    How often are you watering?
    Do you have yellow sticky traps out? I have them out all the time as a preempted measure.
    Cheers
    CCG
     
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    Fractured but whole

    Fractured but whole Well-Known Member

    they are starving, feed them something complete with a good amount of nitrogen
     
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    Nutty sKunK

    Nutty sKunK Well-Known Member

    Have to agree that they look hungry. No burnt/yellow tips means you’re not over feeding. Light healthy green grow just like you want.

    Try upping the feed with a balanced nutrient containing N.
     
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    xtsho

    xtsho Well-Known Member

    Nothing a dose of calcium nitrate wouldn't fix but that wouldn't be organic.

    "All signs show nitrogen deficiency, I just don’t know what I’m doing wrong. Like my previous grows, it’s an reoccurring problem."

    The answer is in your own words. You're underfeeding. It's rare these days but easily corrected. You need to bump up the nitrogen and I would suspect that you need additional micro nutrients as well. That Biobizz light mix doesn't have much of anything in it and the Biobizz grow has almost three times as much potassium as it does nitrogen. I don't know what's in the heaven but it's not enough. I rarely say this but you are not feeding enough.
     
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    Zefito

    Zefito Member

    Thanks for all you help...yes the NPK is 4-3-6 seems pretty low or a grow product.It is transplanted in an All-mix for 4-5 weeks now and added bat guano to the soil mix..i guess its eating it all up.
    ok ill get back to you soon
     
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    ChaosHunter

    ChaosHunter Well-Known Member

    Don't follow nute schedules to a T. Learn to read what the plants start to tell you. Learn to spot this stuff early and adapt to fix it before it gets too out of hand.
     
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    Zefito

    Zefito Member

    I try not to focus on feeding too much, it seems to be nitrogen def.. However, two weeks later, I’m noticing rising levels of PH about 7,5 now! When I first started its was under 6.8, albeit with some yellowing of the bottom leaves from the first couple of weeks. Also the PH meter counts very slowly when measuring the run-off.

    9th week of flowering

    So my questions are:

    What did cause the ph to rise? The biobizz soil All-Mix should balance to PH 6.5

    Did the bat guano mess with the micro-organisms of the soil?

    Shall I flush with PH 6 water with vinegar?

    I’ve tried with various bio bizz soil mixes, with extra perlite, coco coir ect, different pots and always have the reoccurring issue after 5-6 weeks. Is the pot too small? 14L

    I’m not having much luck with the organic growing, maybe as a newbie I should of started with inorganic, maybe easier?

    Thank you all for the help.
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    ChaosHunter

    ChaosHunter Well-Known Member

    There starving, PH should be 6.5 for soil
     
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    Ginger Viking

    Ginger Viking Well-Known Member

    Have you used any Epsom?...The extra Mg is a must for LED. The old growth lost won't recover but new growth will be just fine. Foliar now for something quick and then start adding it every time to your water.
     
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    Terry385

    Terry385 Well-Known Member

    *9th week of flowering*
    sure don't look like 9 weeks in flower I don't see any buds.. what kind of light and time setting.. I say the soil is like a brick
     
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    Zefito

    Zefito Member

    yes i know ph needs to be 6.5 but it incrementally climbed to 7.4 !!
     
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    Zefito

    Zefito Member

    sorry 9 week of Vegetative..
     
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    Zefito

    Zefito Member

    Yeah!! Thats crazy with the LEDs, ok i have some Epsom .How much should i add to a 1 liter spray 1tsp?
     
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    Zefito

    Zefito Member

    Thank you all:bigjoint:
     
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    fn217

    fn217 Active Member

    9 weeks of veg huh.. Damn. My clones look like this after about a week and change...

    Your plants are fucking starving. They are on their way to death at this point. Correct your pH imbalance ASAP and get them the nutrients they need.

    Feed them with some actual food, not the products you are using now.

    http://www.growweedeasy.com/ph
     
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    vostok

    vostok Well-Known Member

    No ones mentions Calmag even Epsom Salts ...?

    add half a teaspoon to a pint of warm water

    spray heavy

    check again after 2 hours

    better take a pic before with phone compare later

    good luck
     
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    xtsho

    xtsho Well-Known Member

    What did cause the ph to rise? The biobizz soil All-Mix should balance to PH 6.5
    It's normal. You added things to the soil so the PH is going to change.

    Did the bat guano mess with the micro-organisms of the soil?
    Doubtful but adding anything changes things. How much did you add? Too much is just as bad as not enough.

    Shall I flush with PH 6 water with vinegar?
    I wouldn't but others would say you should.

    I’ve tried with various bio bizz soil mixes, with extra perlite, coco coir ect, different pots and always have the reoccurring issue after 5-6 weeks. Is the pot too small? 14L
    Your pot is big enough.

    I’m not having much luck with the organic growing, maybe as a newbie I should of started with inorganic, maybe easier?
    Yes it would be easier. But you've come this far you might as well finish this one out organic. I think for best results in organic soil you need to build your own. Look into making your own Super Soil and teas. That's what the guys getting great results and great tasting weed are doing. I'm getting ready to do an organic run in a few months myself.

    If you want advice on organic growing you should be in this subforum http://rollitup.org/f/organics.59/
    Specifically check the information in this thread for feeding information:
    http://rollitup.org/t/organic-feeding-101.510995/
     
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    Blitz35

    Blitz35 Well-Known Member

    Seems to be a heavy nitrogen deficiency. If you're watering at ph 7, it's way too high..drop it by a point! I see some other little spots on a couple leaves..have you been changing the ph too much too quickly? The issue is most certainly not a lack of cal-mag! As for bat guano..remember, it takes quite some time before that would be available to your plants, it's not instant like adding a chemical fertilizer. Also, if you have too much potassium going in and sitting in your medium, that would lockout nitrogen, which seems to be the issue here, along with a high ph!
     
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    xtsho

    xtsho Well-Known Member

    Also get all that dead stuff off immediately. You're inviting bugs and disease.
     
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