My message to the Trump cult: It makes perfect sense that Biden got the most votes in the history of American elections.

mooray

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Not even Trump! The weaponized retard formula is to take a sprinkle of truth, actual truth, then you can attach whatever other nonsense to it and it becomes true also, you know...to an idiot anyway.

Pelosi broke her own Covid protocol to get a haircut and while she was having her haircut, she was making arrangements to send children to Hillary's pedo pizza parlor.

Now it's not such a stretch anymore, again, to an idiot. If someone I like says that and I can easily verify the first part, then the rest of it must be true. There always has to be a sprinkle of truth and then it's a free pass to say whatever you want.
 

hanimmal

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Im sure this is already somewhere, but it is just fascinating to see the people who are so stuck in the mud with their beliefs about Trump.

The ability to not actually consider that (they believe) somehow Trump was able to overcome the 'deep state' or whatever to win the house, senate and presidency in 2016, but screwed up having all the power in DC in 2018 by losing the house, and again losing the house plus the senate and presidency in 2020.

Just amazing how much they dismiss reality.
 

hanimmal

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One week after Joe Biden was sworn in as President One America News (OAN) aired a segment featuring a man they introduced as an "expert mathematician" who claimed to have uncovered evidence of election rigging and that Donald Trump actually won re-election. That man, according to a lawsuit filed by Dominion Voting Systems Tuesday against the far right wing media outlet, is not an expert mathematician, but a swing set installer and convicted drug dealer.

Back on January 27 OAN hosted Ed Solomon, "who claimed to have found evidence within precinct-level reporting that the election was rigged by an algorithm," VICE reports. "The basis of Solomon's claim is that he found several precincts throughout the country reporting exactly the same results at various times throughout the vote tabulation process."

OAN host Christina Bobb asked Solomon what the statistical probability of such an occurrence might be.

"You can use the binomial probability formula, and the chance of that event happening is one over ten to an exponent so large there's not enough stars in the universe—there's not enough atoms in the universe to explain the number. It can't happen naturally," Solomon replied.

VICE adds that Dominion's lawsuit against OAN includes "knowingly reporting defamatory claims against the company in the wake of Trump's loss. In fact, according to the lawsuit, Solomon is a convicted drug dealer and 'was working as an 'installer' at a swing set construction company in Long Island' at the time of the interview."

The same day that segment aired, Media Matters reported "OAN keeps pushing conspiracy theory that computer programs changed votes in the 2020 election."

In February FactCheck.org published a report debunking the Solomon segment, calling it "baseless."
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In a document on Scribd making similar allegations of fraud in Pennsylvania, he claims to “have devoted my life to the study of numbers, fractions and ratios, and have written academic materials on the subject.”

According to his social media profiles, Solomon has been associated with Stony Brook University. A university spokesperson told us that he attended classes as a math major for various terms between 2008 and 2015, but did not get a degree.

Solomon did not respond to emails or Facebook messages asking for his credentials, and where exactly he got his data.

Solomon maintains a YouTube channel where he has posted many videos purporting to prove election fraud. Among his older videos, too, are calls that he made to the radio show of conspiracy theorist Alex Jones. In one, Solomon allegedthat the gunman in the fatal 2013 shooting at the Washington Navy Yard had been identified online before the shooting even took place.

As we said, we don’t know where Solomon got the data that he showed in the OAN clip. It didn’t come from Edison Research, which provides vote tabulation data to the media, the firm told us. And it doesn’t match the data available from Georgia’s Secretary of State. But even if it is an accurate snapshot of precinct-level vote entries on election night, it doesn’t prove that there was fraud committed by an algorithm, experts say.

“That several precincts would show exactly the same vote shares at different times is not at all surprising,” said Philip Stark, associate dean of the division of mathematical and physical sciences at the University of California, Berkeley. Stark also serves on the U.S. Election Assistance Commission Board of Advisors.

Noting that it was hard to fully assess Solomon’s claims because the origins of the data aren’t clear, Stark said in an email that precincts showing the same vote shares would be even more expected by incorporating multiple snapshots of time (as Solomon does). How polarized or close to evenly split an area is could also affect the chances of that occurring, he said.

For instance, Fulton County, which includes Atlanta, leans Democratic and in the OAN video Solomon cited a number of precincts that skew heavily Democratic. In our review of those precincts’ final election results, the 2020 vote shares were not markedly different from those in the 2016 presidential election. While the split was similar, Trump actually fared a little better in 2020 in many of those precincts.

In precinct 10J, for example, Hillary Clinton earned about 96% of the total vote in 2016 compared to Trump’s 3%. In 2020, President Joe Biden received 94% of the vote in that precinct while Trump received 5%.

“It seems like [Solomon] may have sifted through the early Fulton County data … and picked out entries that have the proportion ‘pattern’ [he] dreamed up, using teensy numbers that are utterly inconsequential,” Charleen Adams, a research fellow at the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health who has written about the misleading use of statistics in election fraud claims, told us by email.

There are other problems with the claim, too.

Gabriel Sterling, Georgia’s voting systems manager, said in a phone interview that Solomon’s claim “shows a basic misunderstanding of how vote counts work.”

In order for an algorithm to tamper with votes, he said, it would have to access both the election management system (EMS), which tabulates the votes, and the election night reporting system (ENR), which publishes the results.

The EMS is not connected to the internet, Sterling said. So there would be no way for a computer running a nefarious algorithm to reach it.

Ryan Macias, former acting director of the U.S. Election Assistance Commission’s Voting System Testing and Certification Program, also pointed out in a phone interview that Georgia’s audit — which included a hand tally of the paper ballots — and recount further disprove the claim that an algorithm was used to steal the election for Biden. The counts ultimately confirmed the originally reported election outcome.

“That is the verification that the system is correct,” Macias said.

Stark agreed that the audit undermined the theory of an algorithm manipulating the votes. He was one of dozens of experts who signed a letter in November saying that there was no substantial evidence put forward to support the allegation that the 2020 election had been rigged.

That said, Stark said he and other experts do have actual security concerns, and election systems — including in Georgia — can be improved to engender more confidence in the process. (For example, he advocates that hand-marked ballots be used in place of the touchscreen tablets, or ballot-marking devices, that print out a voter’s selection on a paper with a barcode that is then scanned for counting. Ballot-marking devices should be reserved for voters who need that assistance, he contends.)

However, those concerns are not unique to the 2020 election, he said, and they are not the same as baseless claims that algorithms were used to commit massive, wide-scale fraud.

Editor’s note: FactCheck.org is one of several organizations working with Facebook to debunk misinformation shared on social media. Our previous stories can be found here.
 

CatHedral

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lol fair enough, maybe he is a great mathematician, but it doesn't mean that his job gives him access to accurate data of the election to make ridiculous claims like OANN amplified.
I do wonder how well his swings work. I cant quite put my finger on it but
 

hanimmal

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https://www.rawstory.com/donald-trump-rally-flop/
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According to a report from the Salt Lake Tribune, a two-day pro-Donald Trump event that commenced at the Salt Palace Convention Center was filled with more empty chairs than attendees on its first day.

The promoters behind the Western Conservative Action Network, or WeCANact event, that promised former White House official Michael Flynn as a headliner, had boasted that they expected 10,000 participants, but the Tribune reported that about 1000 showed up to hear about the fight against, "socialist, communist, and Marxist ideologies" in government and schools.

According to the Tribune's report, "The event did focus on that promise, but also offered up a large helping of misinformation about COVID-19, vaccines and the 2020 election. And, to top off the fringe political buffet, there were lots of references to the QAnon conspiracy theory."

To make the point about the small turnout, the Tribune included a photo from the hall showing row upon row upon row of empty seats.

As for what the few who showed up heard, the Tribune's Bryann Schott wrote: "The falsehoods and half-truths flew fast and furious Friday. A favorite target for speakers was the COVID-19 pandemic and any protective measures taken to stop the spread of the virus that has killed more than 720,000 Americans," he wrote before adding, "Other speakers spent time promoting unproven alternative cures for the virus."

Schott added, "More than a few speakers referred to anything they viewed as the enemy as communist or Marxist. Leigh Dundas, who cheered on the crowd who attacked Congress during the Jan. 6 insurrection at the U.S. Capitol, warned the crowd that a plot launched by former Soviet Premier Nikita Kruschev to replace the U.S. government with a communist dictatorship was coming to fruition."

"This is how a communist totalitarian takeover starts. They make divorce easy. They want to normalize deviant sexual practices. They want to get rid of obscenity laws and frame anyone who opposes that as against free speech. They want to get rid of prayer in schools," Dundas told the small crowd.

You can read more here.
 

schuylaar

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hanimmal

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go to youtube and reply to all the fucking trumptards having an uncontested heyday with ignorant stupid, just flatly wrong comments....
Spam trolls/bots are endless on youtube. It is impossible to keep up with that amount of noise.

who is this dundas dumbass?....does he not realize Kruschev died in 1971?....but his sinister plot is still working, it just took 50 years and the death of it's architect to start to gather any steam.... :roll:
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smokinrav

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Roger A. Shrubber

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what a screeching harpy. you can hear the hate in her voice, and the hate in the crowds voice. this miserable bitch has no fucking clue what tyranny is. she's an entitled wealthy white woman. she supports the closest thing to a tyrant this country has ever produced...the only reason you can't call trump a tyrant is his coup attempt fucking failed...
 
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