My leaves are talking but i can’t hear. Help plz.

Tim1987

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Hi CK.

Looks overfed to me.

Medium?
Ppm?
Ph?
Npk?
Water?

:peace:

P.S.
The plants have a good amount of lean too.
Whats the light source?
Are they leaning in towards the light?
Or backing away?
 
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CK?1

Active Member
Hi Tim.

Thanks for taking the time to read my post.

Coco perlite
450 and 550
6.0
General hydroponics
RO water.

They growing towards the LED light. You can almost see a purple like color in some of the leaves. The one lady is a dark green with more brownish tips on a few of the leaves. The other lady is more a lime green light in color but maybe only one leaf with light color burnt tips. They generally look healthy I guess.

Again cheers so much for the feedback.
CK
 

Tim1987

Well-Known Member
Hi Tim.

Thanks for taking the time to read my post.

Coco perlite
450 and 550
6.0
General hydroponics
RO water.

They growing towards the LED light. You can almost see a purple like color in some of the leaves. The one lady is a dark green with more brownish tips on a few of the leaves. The other lady is more a lime green light in color but maybe only one leaf with light color burnt tips. They generally look healthy I guess.

Again cheers so much for the feedback.
CK
Not a problem man. Happy to help another grower.

Id personally cut the ppms, and flush a little.
I'd take a read of your waste. Both ph and ec.
Get the ph and ec to match what's going in.
If you're using calmag, id personally cut it out for the flush. Just use some base nutrient. Maybe 200ppm or so.
Get the waste readings down.

If they dont perk up by tomorrow. Then id bump up your base nutrient, and maybe add some calmag.
If you have been supplementing calmag. How many ppm have you been adding of calmag to your RO?

Sounds like your light is ok. I was worried it was too strong. Thats cool.

Flush with base nutes 200ppm. No calmag.
Match the waste to whats going in. Ph and ec/ppm.
No improvement tomorrow. Up your base nutrient, and possibly supplement a little calmag.

Its important to let us know if you have been adding calmag. Because too much calmag can cause a lot of problems. Especially if there's sodium in your coir.

Best of luck dude.

Tim.

:peace:
 

Tim1987

Well-Known Member
Not a problem man. Happy to help another grower.

Id personally cut the ppms, and flush a little.
I'd take a read of your waste. Both ph and ec.
Get the ph and ec to match what's going in.
If you're using calmag, id personally cut it out for the flush. Just use some base nutrient. Maybe 200ppm or so.
Get the waste readings down.

If they dont perk up by tomorrow. Then id bump up your base nutrient, and maybe add some calmag.
If you have been supplementing calmag. How many ppm have you been adding of calmag to your RO?

Sounds like your light is ok. I was worried it was too strong. Thats cool.

Flush with base nutes 200ppm. No calmag.
Match the waste to whats going in. Ph and ec/ppm.
No improvement tomorrow. Up your base nutrient, and possibly supplement a little calmag.

Its important to let us know if you have been adding calmag. Because too much calmag can cause a lot of problems. Especially if there's sodium in your coir.

Best of luck dude.

Tim.

:peace:
You'll need an additional Mg and K supplement with the nutrients you're using.

Uptake issues due to lack of Mg ad probably K.
 

SwiSHa85

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Ive grown both photos and autos of GSC and can tell you they're hungry little girls. Also they require cal-mag almost always. What lights are you using? I currently have a Fastbuds GSC @ 34 inches in full flower on week 6 so im wondering why your girls are so small at week 5.
 

CK?1

Active Member
Hi Tim.

Thanks for taking the time to read my post.

Coco perlite
450 and 550
6.0
General hydroponics
RO water.

They growing towards the LED light. You can almost see a purple like color in some of the leaves. The one lady is a dark green with more brownish tips on a few of the leaves. The other lady is more a lime green light in color but maybe only one leaf with light color burnt tips. They generally look healthy I guess.

Again cheers so much for the feedback.
CK
You'll need an additional Mg and K supplement with the nutrients you're using.

Uptake issues due to lack of Mg ad probably K.
 

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CK?1

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Ive grown both photos and autos of GSC and can tell you they're hungry little girls. Also they require cal-mag almost always. What lights are you using? I currently have a Fastbuds GSC @ 34 inches in full flower on week 6 so im wondering why your girls are so small at week 5.
Hi SwiSh.

My worries exactly. I’m using your nut table as well and a week behind. They are also Fastbuds under a mars hydro ll at full blast on 20/4 at about 29inches I’ve started adding cal-mag about four days ago.
 

Tim1987

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Id get that read of your waste. ASAP.
I use coir too. Love the stuff.
I use 100% straight coir.
Want to stress to you how important your waste is with coir. Especially ph.
Check your waste.

This is only an example. WW x AK47 not a light feeder by any means.
These were at about 500ppm. Or 1.0ec.
IMAG0265.jpg IMAG0267.jpg Even this size you'll see it was still slightly too much.

Check that waste dude. No kidding.
 

SwiSHa85

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That nute table can be strong for some strains. Every GSC ive grown i always call them the runt of the tent. Always slow to start but when flower starts they shoot for the sky. Lower that LED down to 15-18 inches. Dont be scared cause that mars wont hurt her close. I run my blurple as close as 8 inches sometimes with no bleaching.
 

CK?1

Active Member
Id get that read of your waste. ASAP.
I use coir too. Love the stuff.
I use 100% straight coir.
Want to stress to you how important your waste is with coir. Especially ph.
Check your waste.

This is only an example. WW x AK47 not a light feeder by any means.
These were at about 500ppm. Or 1.0ec.
View attachment 4157458 View attachment 4157459 Even this size you'll see it was still slightly too much.

Check that waste dude. No kidding.
Dude
Id get that read of your waste. ASAP.
I use coir too. Love the stuff.
I use 100% straight coir.
Want to stress to you how important your waste is with coir. Especially ph.
Check your waste.

This is only an example. WW x AK47 not a light feeder by any means.
These were at about 500ppm. Or 1.0ec.
View attachment 4157458 View attachment 4157459 Even this size you'll see it was still slightly too much.

Check that waste dude. No kidding.
dude those plants are beautiful!! Well done. My PPM nut water is at 624ppm. I clearly need to do some more reading up on proper understanding of checking all these readings. Any links you my have tucked away for a newbie to school himself on. My first grow.
 

CK?1

Active Member
That nute table can be strong for some strains. Every GSC ive grown i always call them the runt of the tent. Always slow to start but when flower starts they shoot for the sky. Lower that LED down to 15-18 inches. Dont be scared cause that mars wont hurt her close. I run my blurple as close as 8 inches sometimes with no bleaching.
Ok cool I thought I was burning them. I’ll lower right now. They did start slow and the last two weeks they have shot up. The one ladie had a thicker stem bolder leaves and more growth but the other lady has less leave looks smaller but no burnt tips.
 

SwiSHa85

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Dude

dude those plants are beautiful!! Well done. My PPM nut water is at 624ppm. I clearly need to do some more reading up on proper understanding of checking all these readings. Any links you my have tucked away for a newbie to school himself on. My first grow.
Also my nute chart you need to account I use RO. My base water is less than 50 ppm so I start off much lower than most tap. Dont over think this, you probably just need to water with more run off to lower the build up.
 

CK?1

Active Member
Also my nute chart you need to account I use RO. My base water is less than 50 ppm so I start off much lower than most tap. Dont over think this, you probably just need to water with more run off to lower the build up.
Run off?
Should I flush tomorrow, I haven’t flushed yet?
SwiSh I’ll send more pics well better ones tomorrow for you to have a look at if that’s ok. Just lowered my lights. Thanks for the advice and I’m really trying to not over think thinks and just enjoy the grow. But I guess as it’s my first time ten thousand questions pop in my mind every time I look at these beauties.
 

SwiSHa85

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Run off?
Should I flush tomorrow, I haven’t flushed yet?
SwiSh I’ll send more pics well better ones tomorrow for you to have a look at if that’s ok. Just lowered my lights. Thanks for the advice and I’m really trying to not over think thinks and just enjoy the grow. But I guess as it’s my first time ten thousand questions pop in my mind every time I look at these beauties.
That might be your problem. When you water make sure about 20% comes out the bottom and discard it. Its alot like flushing but everytime you water. All this does is get rid of built up salts in your medium that make your ppm read higher. My runoff ppm is usually 25-50 ppm higher than what im feeding. You want whats coming out the bottom to be as close to whats going in the top if that makes sense.
 

CK?1

Active Member
That might be your problem. When you water make sure about 20% comes out the bottom and discard it. Its alot like flushing but everytime you water. All this does is get rid of built up salts in your medium that make your ppm read higher. My runoff ppm is usually 25-50 ppm higher than what im feeding. You want whats coming out the bottom to be as close to whats going in the top if that makes sense.
Totally thanks. I water and have been making sure I only dose enough to not have the water drain out the bottom. I’ll action your suggestions ASAP and check those feeding figures vs my run off. So your plants are on a stand of sorts with a try underneath cause I just have them on the floor the tent came with a fitted tray
 
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