I took a plastic container from dollar store--cut holes in lid--bought 5 sponges and cut out circles to match lid.cut clones and put directly in clean water<rainwater>took a razor and cut a limb off to node and dipped in cloning powder-I wet the spunge and gently rapped around stalk,suck them in the 8 holes.places water to bottom of sponge and put a bubbler in bottom of container. first round I got 8 out of 8 second round 2 weeks later I got 7 out of 8--clones are 2 weeks between some of them.in 4 weeks they are as big as the doner!!!this is a very low profile grow--tons of people everywhere--got to be stealthy