Mutated branch and flower under the canopy

Fullscan19

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Weird right? I was gonna chop it, but said fuck it let’s see what it turns into.
 

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Nah im gonna let it grow, and no nitrogen is fine, the top colas are so beautiful and frosty and they’re only in week 3. These are the best plants I’ve ever done and under my QBs they’re so perfect in every way, symmetrical, frosty, fan leaves spread like a bald eagle stretching its wings.

This guy just grew off the bottom trunk and just been chillin lol kind of like having a 6th toe.

All leaves and stems are a nice dark green covered in trichomes, this is the only part of the plant that is lighter colored.

For reference the plants are 4 ft, this guy is like a foot long but starts at the base, idk what caused it lol
 
You can keep it if you want, but from my experience, small flowers and buds like that just take away resources better used up top where the light is stongest. That's why growers trim and defoliate so often.
 
That's a whorled phyllotaxy, basically 2 branches growing together. The stem should be very wide and flat. The bud will get really dense but you get double the leaves.
 
You can keep it if you want, but from my experience, small flowers and buds like that just take away resources better used up top where the light is stongest. That's why growers trim and defoliate so often.

They don't take away anything. You could cut that branch off and it will make no difference on the rest of the plant.

Growers trim and chop their plants because they can't leave them alone.
 
They don't take away anything. You could cut that branch off and it will make no difference on the rest of the plant.

Growers trim and chop their plants because they can't leave them alone.

Marijuana aside (this plant does things I'm not used to) trimming excess growth produces better flower or fruit bearing growth, IME with the roses, and berries I've grown for years.
 
Looks like a fasciated branch to me. I've grown out a couple in the past just for sh1ts and giggles. Now I remove the confused maristem by topping during veg as soon as I see one. Nodes below that maristem grow normally even coming from a screwed up, flat thick hollow stem.
 
Looks like a fasciated branch to me. I've grown out a couple in the past just for sh1ts and giggles. Now I remove the confused maristem by topping during veg as soon as I see one. Nodes below that maristem grow normally even coming from a screwed up, flat thick hollow stem.

Whorlled phyllotaxy, fasciation is slightlydiffreent but i forget why :-)
 
Whorlled phyllotaxy, fasciation is slightlydiffreent but i forget why :-)
Phyllotaxy refers to the arrangement of leaves on the stem. In the whorled arrangement, 3 or more leaves appear at each node. It's a common "mutation" in cannabis seedlings, but in my experience most correct themselves after putting out a few nodes.
 
Phyllotaxy refers to the arrangement of leaves on the stem. In the whorled arrangement, 3 or more leaves appear at each node. It's a common "mutation" in cannabis seedlings, but in my experience most correct themselves after putting out a few nodes.

Mutation is such a broad term for such a diverse classification it really dosent do it justice.

Our whorlled phy. is merely a stress reaction causing a certain type of mutation which is not hereditary (big difference here).

Thats why it comes and goes with stress not genetics.

Now as i vaguely understand fascination is linked to a genetic, virus or such term and nothing to do with say the apical dominance problem willow trees face where by like this plant it hasr lost its upwards growth ability.

So yes whorlled phy describes our situation and why it is not genetic or fascination.

All i can say is it goes when the stress goes, we have all reported the bud to taste like crap as three times the amount of leaf and twig and never matures well or swells as too compact.

You want to avoid it, looks cool but isnt.

Other confusing terms you here round this but arent linked are ttifoliate and polyploidy, seperate subjects and ploidy dosent happen in weed that we know of :-)
 
Mutation is such a broad term for such a diverse classification it really dosent do it justice.

Our whorlled phy. is merely a stress reaction causing a certain type of mutation which is not hereditary (big difference here).

Thats why it comes and goes with stress not genetics.

Now as i vaguely understand fascination is linked to a genetic, virus or such term and nothing to do with say the apical dominance problem willow trees face where by like this plant it hasr lost its upwards growth ability.

So yes whorlled phy describes our situation and why it is not genetic or fascination.

All i can say is it goes when the stress goes, we have all reported the bud to taste like crap as three times the amount of leaf and twig and never matures well or swells as too compact.

You want to avoid it, looks cool but isnt.

Other confusing terms you here round this but arent linked are ttifoliate and polyploidy, seperate subjects and ploidy dosent happen in weed that we know of :-)
I thought I saw on here a while back someone thought they had polyploid and someone else agreed, or we're weall just stoned. And why can't polyploid exist in Cannabis? It happens in humans from time to time, and happens in a LOT of other species as well. Bees come directly to mind. Diploid drone syndrome being detrimental to a colony.
 
I thought I saw on here a while back someone thought they had polyploid and someone else agreed, or we're weall just stoned. And why can't polyploid exist in Cannabis? It happens in humans from time to time, and happens in a LOT of other species as well. Bees come directly to mind. Diploid drone syndrome being detrimental to a colony.

Firstly not all plants are able to ploid and no evidence has ever been found in cannabis, hemp yes marijuana no.

Ploidy plants can be superior or un-superior or just normal, many superior plants have been bred with ploidy like hemp and melon etc.

It is a myth here, most call trifoliates polyploids but again the two are different. If it did exist we could possibly create a far superior strain, 59 years of breeding and its never hapoened which is why i say it dosent exist in mj.
 
Mj genetics resist change at every chance, they are not prone to mutate or cross with other species.

This is their genetic long term survival plan, why for 1000's of years they all look the same.

Diversity mj loves, this is not a fundamental change in genetics or for example leaf shape etc
 
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