Moving Outdoors to Veg

buddy:)

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I’ve been working on this grow for a few months now and the clones just reached 4ft tall from the soil. I’m planning on moving them outdoors to veg. I’m having trouble finding the best date to move them outdoors. I live in southern california and have been adjusting the lights from 18/6 down to 14/8 slowly. I originally wanted to move them outside on may 14 but now i’m thinking that’s too early. I really don’t want them to reveg. Should I wait till june 1st? Trynna make some monsters!
 

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Herb & Suds

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To clarify I don’t want it to go into flowering and then reveg.
Southern California

MaySunriseSunsetLengthDiff.StartEndStartEndStartEndTimeMil. mi
2021Sunrise/SunsetDaylengthAstronomical TwilightNautical TwilightCivil TwilightSolar Noon
11
15:56 am ↑ (71°)7:32 pm ↑ (289°)13:35:55+1:504:23 am9:06 pm4:57 am8:31 pm5:29 am7:59 pm12:44 pm (70.6°)93.673
25:55 am ↑ (70°)7:33 pm ↑ (290°)13:37:45+1:494:21 am9:07 pm4:55 am8:32 pm5:28 am8:00 pm12:44 pm (70.9°)93.697
35:54 am ↑ (70°)7:34 pm ↑ (290°)13:39:33+1:484:20 am9:08 pm4:54 am8:33 pm5:27 am8:01 pm12:43 pm (71.2°)93.721
45:53 am ↑ (70°)7:34 pm ↑ (291°)13:41:21+1:474:19 am9:09 pm4:53 am8:34 pm5:26 am8:02 pm12:43 pm (71.5°)93.745
55:52 am ↑ (69°)7:35 pm ↑ (291°)13:43:07+1:464:17 am9:10 pm4:52 am8:35 pm5:25 am8:02 pm12:43 pm (71.8°)93.768
65:51 am ↑ (69°)7:36 pm ↑ (291°)13:44:51+1:444:16 am9:11 pm4:51 am8:36 pm5:24 am8:03 pm12:43 pm (72.1°)93.791
75:50 am ↑ (69°)7:37 pm ↑ (292°)13:46:35+1:434:15 am9:13 pm4:50 am8:37 pm5:23 am8:04 pm12:43 pm (72.4°)93.814
85:49 am ↑ (68°)7:37 pm ↑ (292°)13:48:17+1:424:13 am9:14 pm4:49 am8:38 pm5:22 am8:05 pm12:43 pm (72.6°)93.836
95:48 am ↑ (68°)7:38 pm ↑ (292°)13:49:57+1:404:12 am9:15 pm4:48 am8:39 pm5:21 am8:06 pm12:43 pm (72.9°)93.858
105:47 am ↑ (68°)7:39 pm ↑ (293°)13:51:37+1:394:11 am9:16 pm4:46 am8:40 pm5:20 am8:07 pm12:43 pm (73.2°)93.880
 

Qube

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I'm in the same boat as you and I'm aiming to put them out on or around 6/1. Even then I'll probably give them a little supplemental lighting until after the solstice, 6/22 I believe, just to be safe.

If you put them out now they will do exactly what you're afraid of. It happened to me the year before last and the plants got fucked. 5 foot tall single leaf larfy mutants from tip to tail.

Edit: I'm in So Cal also.
 

Herb & Suds

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I'm in the same boat as you and I'm aiming to put them out on or around 6/1. Even then I'll probably give them a little supplemental lighting until after the solstice, 6/22 I believe, just to be safe.

If you put them out now they will do exactly what you're afraid of. It happened to me the year before last and the plants got fucked. 5 foot tall single leaf larfy mutants from tip to tail.
It really depends on the prep

He is reducing lighting to match 14 hours of daylight
If you went from 18/6 to 14 hours it is likely to flower
 

buddy:)

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It really depends on the prep

He is reducing lighting to match 14 hours of daylight
If you went from 18/6 to 14 hours it is likely to flower
But even with this light preparation moving from 18/6 to 14/8 slowly, people have said their plants started to flower and reveg in may! Just trying to be more than careful.
 

buddy:)

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Two different growers gave me two different answers. If you guys could explain a little more why may 14 is fine to put them out or why i should wait till june. Appreciate the replies and advise!
 

Qube

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Here's some info:


Marijuana Grower's Handbook - Part 3 of 33 - Ed Rosenthal


"Growth and Flowering" The cannabis plant regulates its growth and flowering stages by measuring the changes in the number of hours of uniterrupted darkness to determine when to flower. The plant produces a hormone (phytochrome) begining at germination. When this chemical builds up to a critical level, the plant changes its mode from vegetative growth to flowering. This chemical is destroyed in the presence of even a few moments of light. During the late spring and early summer there are many more hours of light than darkness and the hormone does not build up to a critical level. However, as the days grow shorter and there are longer periods of uniterrupted darkness, the hormone builds up to a critical level.
Flowering occurs at different times with different varieties as a result of the adaptation of the varieties to the environment. Varieties from the 30th latitude grow in an area with a temperate climate and fairly early fall. These plants usually trigger in July or August and are ready to harvest in September or October. Southern African varieties often flower with as little as 8 or 9 hours of darkness/15 to 16 hours of light. Other 30th latitude varieties including most indicas flower when the darkness cycle lasts a minimum of 9 to 10 hours. Jamaican and some Southeast Asian varieties will trigger at 11 hours of darkness and ripen during September or October.
Equatorial varieties trigger at 12 hours or more of darkness. This means that they will not start flowering before late September or early October and will not mature until late November or early December. Of course, indoors the plants' growth stage can be regulated with the flick of a switch. Nevertheless, the plants respond to the artificial light cycle in the same way that they do to the natural seasonal cycles. The potency of the plant is related to its maturity rather than chronological age. Genetically identical 3 month and 6 month-old plants which have mature flowers have the same potency. Starting from seed, a six month old plant flowers slightly faster and fills out more than a 3 month old plant.
 

buddy:)

Active Member
Here's some info:


Marijuana Grower's Handbook - Part 3 of 33 - Ed Rosenthal


"Growth and Flowering" The cannabis plant regulates its growth and flowering stages by measuring the changes in the number of hours of uniterrupted darkness to determine when to flower. The plant produces a hormone (phytochrome) begining at germination. When this chemical builds up to a critical level, the plant changes its mode from vegetative growth to flowering. This chemical is destroyed in the presence of even a few moments of light. During the late spring and early summer there are many more hours of light than darkness and the hormone does not build up to a critical level. However, as the days grow shorter and there are longer periods of uniterrupted darkness, the hormone builds up to a critical level.
Flowering occurs at different times with different varieties as a result of the adaptation of the varieties to the environment. Varieties from the 30th latitude grow in an area with a temperate climate and fairly early fall. These plants usually trigger in July or August and are ready to harvest in September or October. Southern African varieties often flower with as little as 8 or 9 hours of darkness/15 to 16 hours of light. Other 30th latitude varieties including most indicas flower when the darkness cycle lasts a minimum of 9 to 10 hours. Jamaican and some Southeast Asian varieties will trigger at 11 hours of darkness and ripen during September or October.
Equatorial varieties trigger at 12 hours or more of darkness. This means that they will not start flowering before late September or early October and will not mature until late November or early December. Of course, indoors the plants' growth stage can be regulated with the flick of a switch. Nevertheless, the plants respond to the artificial light cycle in the same way that they do to the natural seasonal cycles. The potency of the plant is related to its maturity rather than chronological age. Genetically identical 3 month and 6 month-old plants which have mature flowers have the same potency. Starting from seed, a six month old plant flowers slightly faster and fills out more than a 3 month old plant.
I understand, so do you think I should place them outside in a few days or wait a few more weeks? Because it sounds like I should wait a few more weeks and plant outside in June to avoid the risk of flowering.
 

Qube

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It depends on your situation a little bit. Here's my plan for this year.

Right now my plants are about 18"-24" or so above the pot, 1 gal atm. In two weeks I'm going to transplant into their final pots, probably 10 gals, and move them outside. I usually run bigger pots but I'm running promix hp this year and intend to feed/water daily if necessary, like outdoor hydro.

This puts me in to the last week of May. The first week outside I keep them shaded for them to adjust to new pots and the sun. All the while I run a couple shop lights out there for an hour or two after dusk to be extra sure they stay in veg.

After 6/22 I remove the shop lights and go for broke.

That is all based on my circumstances and may not work for you. If you can't add supplemental lighting I would put out plants after 6/1 at the minimum and 6/22 to be 100%.

Are you planning on up potting those or?
 

buddy:)

Active Member
It depends on your situation a little bit. Here's my plan for this year.

Right now my plants are about 18"-24" or so above the pot, 1 gal atm. In two weeks I'm going to transplant into their final pots, probably 10 gals, and move them outside. I usually run bigger pots but I'm running promix hp this year and intend to feed/water daily if necessary, like outdoor hydro.

This puts me in to the last week of May. The first week outside I keep them shaded for them to adjust to new pots and the sun. All the while I run a couple shop lights out there for an hour or two after dusk to be extra sure they stay in veg.

After 6/22 I remove the shop lights and go for broke.

That is all based on my circumstances and may not work for you. If you can't add supplemental lighting I would put out plants after 6/1 at the minimum and 6/22 to be 100%.

Are you planning on up potting those or?
I was thinking the same thing, just adding some extra light at night to break up the dark period. and im going to put them in the ground! they are going to be massive!
 
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