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RetiredMatthebrute
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you shouldnt use molasses every watering, it will lower your soil PH over time and cause lockouts. Im going through this problem myself right now.
molasses is really only for feeding benificial bacteria and microbes in your soil that break down organic matter and feed the plant. the molasses itself really has no nutritional value for plants. if your feeding with synthetics than molasses really isnt usefull and will more than likely do more harm than good especially if you dont have the soil biology to break it down.
molasses is really only for feeding benificial bacteria and microbes in your soil that break down organic matter and feed the plant. the molasses itself really has no nutritional value for plants. if your feeding with synthetics than molasses really isnt usefull and will more than likely do more harm than good especially if you dont have the soil biology to break it down.
RetiredMatthebrute
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its a verry common misconception that molasses adds resin and flavor to the buds and makes them swell. it dosent. plants dont process glucose.
a mongo frog
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Very interesting post. Would This be the same thing as far as it really isn't doing anything, if one was using the product Sweet and using house and garden nutes?
NietzscheKeen
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I'm going through the same thing as well. I'm in the process of adjusting my soils pH. I had no idea that molasses lowered pH so much; possibly as much as one full pH point. If you're growing in soil, I'd say to use molasses once in a while. I was using it every watering and while my plants still seem to be doing fine. It was a pain transplanting them because the roots and everything else was literally glued to the inside of the pot and it caused a lot more root damage than necessary. Honestly, I'd recommend brewing a microbe/compost tea instead of adding the molasses directly to the water and/or nutrients. Then if you brew a gallon or however much you can use at one time, you use maybe a cup or two of the brew for each plant.
I don't know if there is much point in using molasses if you aren't growing organically because from what I understand the synthetic nutrients aren't too good for bacteria and microbe in the soil, so it's sorta like feeding them and killing them at the same time. I'd do more research on this though.
I don't know if there is much point in using molasses if you aren't growing organically because from what I understand the synthetic nutrients aren't too good for bacteria and microbe in the soil, so it's sorta like feeding them and killing them at the same time. I'd do more research on this though.
SS68396331
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I dilute it to about a tbsp per gal then add that mix to my watering bucket at about 1:3 ratio for a total of 4 gal to whatever it is I might be adding..or not. Molasses is used in many applications outside thew mmj arena. Once diluted you can use it whenever you want. The key is not over doing it. There is a lot of misconception out there and it all starts with ".. hey let's add sticky stuff to make the buds stickier. " Depending on how vigorous your soil is you can add more or less. Just remember more is not better.. and you should adjust your Ph if it drops off drastically, mine usually drops way down because of the fish juice I feed at this time. Suggested reading.. Soil Biology. There may be some trace minerals in there, but for the most part the Molasses is for your beneficial bugs, your plant will love you for it. As for when to introduce? I wait until get into active veg, 3-4 weeks, for maintenance every other watering not going above the 1 tbsp/gal. If more is needed Add more of the molasses solution to your water can.
Oh yeah, Don't leave it mixed up and sitting out.. yeast will get in and turn it to alcohol which your plants will not like much.
Oh yeah, Don't leave it mixed up and sitting out.. yeast will get in and turn it to alcohol which your plants will not like much.
Dwezelitsame
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i just use molasses at the end of grow when i stop food during the last two weeks
instead of food every and water its molasses and water
rest of the growth i want potent food and suplaments i know lots of fooods that use molasses in it
glucktoya
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instead of food every and water its molasses and water
rest of the growth i want potent food and suplaments i know lots of fooods that use molasses in it
glucktoya
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Ok. So basically it's best to use it at the end close to harvest? I'm using fox farm organic soil ocean forest and the store I got it from also gave me some organicare bloom the pure brand. And organicare starter also by pure. It's suppose to be a newer brand I guess. Have you ever heard of such?
Sunbiz1
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You bring up a very important point, molasses is all but worthless for Promix or soil less peat growers. However, it does contain quite a few minerals and trace elements and will enhance a grow when used properly. I once did an experiment with Grandma's molasses, 2 years ago. I didn't think it was possible to overdose an in-ground 8 footer, so I tried a full cup in a gallon of water. The photo doesn't do the disastrous results justice, took me a month to correct the N lockout...now it's 1 Tbsp/gal every other watering. I treated the imbalance with a balanced approach, a 5-5-5 granular...worked but again this was in-ground in a wetland of all places.
RetiredMatthebrute
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sorry i cant comment on the sweet stuff but if the house and garden nutes are slat based theres really no need for adding any glucose/carb's to your soil because all the nutes are available immidiatly.
RetiredMatthebrute
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holy shit 1 cup per gal.....dam Sunbiz wth were you thinking bro? lol. live and learn right, thats the name of the game.
i agree with the other person who said to use the molasses in a AACT prior to watering it in, this gives the benificials time to break most of it down outside of the soil before adding it. I am by far an expert on the subject so i urge people to read up on it as best they can to get a better insight on exactly what they are doing to thier soil food web when adding molasses.
NietzscheKeen
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I also suspect that the molasses has caused my plants to appear to be stressed as if from overwatering. Does anyone have any experience on this? One or two of my leaf tips are doing the claw thing. It's not N and likely not overwatering... over molassesing maybe
I also wonder if molasses can build up on the roots and cause problems.
I also wonder if molasses can build up on the roots and cause problems.
RetiredMatthebrute
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if theres nothing in the soil sure it can build up and cause problems....never hurts to give a 1/2 flush of good PHed water just to be safe 
LadyZandra
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Many people use carbs of some sort all thru the grow with no issues-- all depends on the medium used, the nutes used and the amount of molasses used... make SURE it is unsulfered.... and use 1/3-1/2 the 'full dose" until the last 2-3 weeks of flower & flush...
LadyZandra
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Many people use carbs of some sort all thru the grow with no issues-- all depends on the medium used, the nutes used and the amount of molasses used... make SURE it is unsulfered....
and use 1/3-1/2 the 'full dose" until the last 2-3 weeks of flower & flush...
It is what the plants store to use in the final days of flowering--
usually, they use photosynthesis up to a certain point to produce, use & store their own carbs--
but if carbs are supplimented- they have more to use easily the last weeks of "plumping up'...
and if they are well fed, and flowered long enough-- they should start to either go yellow, gold, red or purple (if temps are lowered) or just yellow the last 2 weeks--
just like outdoors in Autumn- it is the plant using-up it's chlorophyll reserves..... a good thing & mellower smoke!
and use 1/3-1/2 the 'full dose" until the last 2-3 weeks of flower & flush...
It is what the plants store to use in the final days of flowering--
usually, they use photosynthesis up to a certain point to produce, use & store their own carbs--
but if carbs are supplimented- they have more to use easily the last weeks of "plumping up'...
and if they are well fed, and flowered long enough-- they should start to either go yellow, gold, red or purple (if temps are lowered) or just yellow the last 2 weeks--
just like outdoors in Autumn- it is the plant using-up it's chlorophyll reserves..... a good thing & mellower smoke!
RetiredMatthebrute
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the plants dont use molasses at all.. as far as i have read at least. feel free to correct me with a legit article if you would like that proves my statement wrong.
im no ttrying to be a douche but i think you have aquired some false information and need to go do some reading and straighten your facts out.
chuck estevez
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I have seen her dropping all kinds of mis information. Telling people to chop there plant and put it in a dwc for a few days to flush it. People are so stupid sometimes.
