Yea it's th seeds I bought a 3 pack first 2 were wonderful but were under a 600w hps. I went to herbies
that's a nice light you might not get a lot of stretch after the flip I've been running leds for about a year and I'm still learning how to judge the stretch I have 340w.cob in a 3x3 tent this is my second round with this combination it helps when you clone & use what you've learned about a strain in the second grow I've grown mk-ultra x bubblegum it came out pretty good this is a pic of my single plant grow