Mini Mortgage Lifter - 5-10 lbs every 65 days??

I've been looking at growing for several months now and have done all my homework on it, now I am just trying to decide what system I want to use. I am not a DIYer, not even close. I am looking for a turnkey system such as the Mini Mortgage Lifter. Funds are not an issue, I just want to get the most bang for my buck (yes, I know its cheaper to DIY). It advertises 5-10 lbs of dried, usable plant matter every 65 days. I even called and specifically asked if that included anything besides the flower and he said no. But I am still skeptical and would like to hear from anyone who is currently using this system.

At first I was leaning towards a system like BCNL Bloombox or Producer, but they are more expensive and don't seem to produce nearly as much. Stealth is not really that important, the only thing I worry about is smell. If it is too smelly I may have to go with something such as the bloom box.

Anyways, sorry for the wall of text. Any and all input from people experienced with this product is greatly appreciated!

buy a tent a light and a fan and start from there. no need to go out and get all this shit that you dont really know how to use.

I have no idea how they are getting 5-10 pounds from their advertised grow rooms. My brother and I were looking at them in high times the other day and just started laughing. I would love to be proved wrong on this so I can start following their grow methods but with the setups they are showing I do not see how those yields are possible. The mini mortgage lifter has a 19 plant capacity with a 600 watt light in a 4x4 tent. since it is self contained you would have to have all the plants under veg or flower at the same time; in that case harvesting 4 times per year you would need to pull 12 oz dried per plant with only one month of veg. The other option is to run a separate veg cycle outside of the tent; and in that case harvesting each plant site 6 times per year you would still need to pull 8 oz dried per plant to make what they claim. I just don't think it is possible with what they are selling people.

I have an Undercurrent system and am pleased with it. I have grown every way there is and have just moved to the RDWC as I was looking for the system that would grow the most with the less plants. the THC farmer has a whole section on them. Been around for 8 years, lots of the clubs in Cali are using them. Just built a system with 30 gal pods 9 of them, root mass like you have never seen. Guys are pulling 1 to 3 lb per plant.

wow if thats the setup then its complete bullshit!! lol. thats freaking funny. if you want to grow i suggest reading, reading some more, ask lots of questions and then start small. anything you get off the bat will suck and then you will be pissed. its going to take a long time to get those kind of numbers.

Yea thats what I thought. Right now I don't plan on having a separate veg chamber, so it will take me a little longer in between harvests. But yes I do eventually plan on having a separate tent for vegging. So how much do you guys think I could expect to harvest with a product like this (with the hydro and co2 upgrades) in a 3 month period? Even thought it will not produce as advertised it would still be worth it imho if it could produce even 2-3 lbs per harvest.

You don't necessarily need to do a vegetation stage, you know that right? Im a home grower myself on about the same level as you are apart from maybe a little more experience. I will gladly help you out, and tell you no bullshit like most of the people do haha

The unit looks nice, but a 600 watt light is good for 1 pound - 1.5 lb. max. I think you can get a 4x4 tent with everything needed for less than the lifter.

agreed!!^ .. and if ur smart u will go buy a roll of panda film and go out and buy some pvc pipes.. 1 inch thick.. and make frames out of pvc.. and then use the pandafilm for the walls floor roof.. cut needed wholes.. and make ur own tents.. and ull be able to make enough rooms to get a couple pounds every 60-70 days..

It's called the Mini-Mortgage Lifter because after dude sells you that crappy cabinet behind all the crazy bullshit grow specs, he's going to have a lot of your and other people's money.... haha

BigBear87 said:

Yea thats what I thought. Right now I don't plan on having a separate veg chamber, so it will take me a little longer in between harvests. But yes I do eventually plan on having a separate tent for vegging. So how much do you guys think I could expect to harvest with a product like this (with the hydro and co2 upgrades) in a 3 month period? Even thought it will not produce as advertised it would still be worth it imho if it could produce even 2-3 lbs per harvest.

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Right now, you should concentrate on being able to complete a grow without fucking up too much and not about yield.

There are so many things you can do wrong, or not completely right, that will affect yield, it's not worth even thinking about.

Do a couple of grows from start to finish, get everything dialed in, and THEN focus on yield. By then you will have a good idea of what is possible.

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I went to my local hydro store to check some other options. A 4'11" x 4'11" growlab tent with 2 600w each of mh and hps lights, 2 air cooled reflectors, an intake and outake fan, ebb & flow with reservoir, co2, carbon filter, and ballast totaled to about $2500 [also included ph tester , nutes, rockwool, etc]. Thats with a discount for cash.

My question is will this likely produce 2+ lbs assuming no mistakes are made? And does the price seem right?

Any estimates on yield with the above set up from the hydro store? I know it depends on the grower, but I have plenty of experience growing other plants (worked on a farm) and I'm confident that I won't be making many, if any, mistakes.

haha not the same thing. i grew up on a farm its not the same. every plant is differnt. learn one strain and master it. every strain likes differnt things. some like humidty soime like nitrogene some dont. some like a high ph some dont. you got find out what they need.

im a outdoor grower. and i finally got things right after 4 yrs of playing in my grow room. i took the bugs that kept eating my plants and the humidty theat kept giving them mold . and hundreds of plants. and when i found one that the bugs didnt kill i kept it. then i went on to the humidty. now i have plants that nothing bothers. i grow in my room at 80 humidty plants love it. but if i told you to do that i t would kill most.

Yea Im with you that it's not the same, but I feel some of the experience will still help in many ways. But I guess I should reword my question: Is .75 grams per watt a reasonable expectation for a first time grow? Using 2 600's and hoping to get ~2lbs, which is roughly .75g per watt

this is the kind of setup that you are looking for and it is priced reasonably.
http://www.htgsupply.com/Product-HTG-1000w-Grow-Tent-Kit.asp#

but the yield is dependent upon many factors and it shows your naivete and lack of knowledge to focus on it.

with starting off that size everything is going to come into account temps circulation ph plus general tending
be ready for your trip or you'll run out of gas under the perfect condition a experience grower should be able to pull of a gram per watt

Wow, first I've heard of this, poundage from that system is a farce! If you really know what you're doing you might be able to pull a pound every 3 months out of something like this, but being a beginner feel lucky if your plants come to fruition. Take your time and start small, work your way up to the big leagues like the rest of us.
I have a bunch of guys come in my shop looking to throw a bunch of money down and start growing big numbers right away, almost all of the fail even with a lot of help.
So save ur money, take you're time and work your way up to bigger and better things.

irieie said:

this is the kind of setup that you are looking for and it is priced reasonably.
http://www.htgsupply.com/Product-HTG-1000w-Grow-Tent-Kit.asp#

but the yield is dependent upon many factors and it shows your naivete and lack of knowledge to focus on it.

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Good setup. I would recommend upgrading it to an air cooled reflector and adding on a carbon filter.