Messege to all the new "independants/Republicans"

NoDrama

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Couldn't we just say that Mexico has WMD's and go over there and take over the whole country and turn it into USA jr? That way the majority of illegal mexican immigrants would become legal? Hey it worked for Bushy, couldn't Obomba do that?


Sarcasm.
 

NoDrama

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lol because they just doubled their money here, so now that this is around where it will be for a while you go to the next big boom, and yes they are trailing our recovery so being over there is a good idea.



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3.) Because you don't have the skills to be able to earn more, you invest in yourself by going to school so that in the future you can earn more than you have been able to in the past.

I argue that this is the one that Obama has chosen. Investing in the country will allow us to make more in the coming years. It is not a fast payoff, but it is the best way to invest.


And I knew you were not talking about a fence, I was not either.
You do NOT have to go to school to get a better job, thats ridiculous to think that. My father makes easy $500k a year, 2 of my uncles make in excess of 300K a year and NONE of them went to college, in fact all 3 had to repeat at least 1 grade.

College is subsidized by the government, the colleges take advantage of the student by basically extorting the money from the government through the use of student loans and Pell grants. when the student graduates he isn't necessarily smarter, but is in a whole lot more debt. The more government subsidizes it the more expensive it becomes. The majority of state run higher education's goal is to make a profit, not turn out intelligent well educated people.

Im not saying college is a waste of time, it has its purpose, unfortunately I think many of the Colleges themselves have forgotten that.
 

hanimmal

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You do NOT have to go to school to get a better job, thats ridiculous to think that. My father makes easy $500k a year, 2 of my uncles make in excess of 300K a year and NONE of them went to college, in fact all 3 had to repeat at least 1 grade.

College is subsidized by the government, the colleges take advantage of the student by basically extorting the money from the government through the use of student loans and Pell grants. when the student graduates he isn't necessarily smarter, but is in a whole lot more debt. The more government subsidizes it the more expensive it becomes. The majority of state run higher education's goal is to make a profit, not turn out intelligent well educated people.

Im not saying college is a waste of time, it has its purpose, unfortunately I think many of the Colleges themselves have forgotten that.
I think that is the second time in two days you have called me out for saying something that is generally true, but not completely true. I guess I have to go back to always putting in (this is not 100% the case but 95%) or (I know there are some exceptions, but come on, the people that are able to do this are so low that it is not really worth talking about).

Or I could just say what I do say and hope that people take it in context to what I had just highlighted.

I said:
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3.) Because you don't have the skills to be able to earn more, you invest in yourself by going to school so that in the future you can earn more than you have been able to in the past.

I argue that this is the one that Obama has chosen. Investing in the country will allow us to make more in the coming years. It is not a fast payoff, but it is the best way to invest.
To this statement by CJ:
You are a regular person with a budget. Now you have been living beyond your means for quite some time, and ur credit is almost maxed out. The bills are piling up but you keep refinancing that debt to stave off the ugly mess.

Inevitably, you make a mistake, and your income lowers, revenue is less, but the bills, they just keep coming, with many more waiitng in the wings.
So do you think your dad or uncle fall under the context that CJ put it in? Because I am willing to bet they are not.

So I will stand by it, if you are a normal person on financially hard times there is a third option, to go back to school and get a (usable) degree so that you now will have skills in the workplace and demand a higher salary, and get a job to improve your life for the future.
 
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