Medicated Bonsai
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Has anyone tried this line and is it worth the price?
Mammoth P Nutrients
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Lordhooha
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I’ve used it for awhile. It’s ok but after about 10 runs with that compared to my casting tea I’ve steered away from it. For the price I can’t justify keeping it for the scale of my grow.
Medicated Bonsai
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Sounds like I just should stick with MegaCrop. Any suggestions for PK boosters or is it not necessary?
Lordhooha
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I dont use them. In a properly fed plants boosters, hardening and so called flavor enhancers are bs and simply a waste of money imo.
xtsho
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I wouldn't use it although it does have some scientifically documented benefits. I have concerns with introducing bacteria that can cause diseases in humans into my grow environment. After doing some rudimentary research on the product I can't see why anyone would introduce this into their grow.
"We tested the effect of the Mammoth P™ on plant growth, flowering, and fruit productivity. Mammoth P™ is comprised of a consortium of four bacterial taxa (Enterobacter cloacae, Citrobacter freundii, Pseudomonas putida and Comamonas testosteroni;"
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4911952/
"Enterobacter cloacae is the most common Enterobacter species that can cause diseases in humans. This bacteria is widely distributed in water, sewage and soil, and in the feces of healthy persons. They are opportunistic pathogens and cause infections of wounds, the urinary tract and the respiratory tract. They can occasionally cause blood and brain infections, especially in immunocompromised individuals. Antibiotics are the mainstay of treatment for this infection. The goal of therapy is to eradicate the infection and to prevent complications."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC113501/
"The genus Citrobacter in the Enterobacteriaceae family consists of 13 currently recognized species, and among these, Citrobacter freundii and Citrobacter koseri are the most frequently associated with infection of humans. C. freundii, the focus of this study, can be found in the intestinal tracts of humans and other animals and from diverse environmental sources"
C. freundii causes a broad spectrum of infections as an opportunistic pathogen, including infections of the urinary tract, respiratory tract, wounds, and bloodstream. Limited outbreaks involving clonal drug-resistant isolates have also been observed in healthcare settings"
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3836000/
"Previously, Pseudomonas putida was considered a low-virulence pathogen and was recognized as a rare cause of bacteremia. Recently, however, multidrug-resistant and carbapenem-resistant P. putida isolates have emerged, causing difficult-to-treat nosocomial infections in seriously ill patients."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3434797/
"Comamonas testosteroni: An Unusual Bacteria Associated with Acute Appendicitis.
Among the 33 patients with C. testosteroni infections including the present case, four patients died."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4115943/
"We tested the effect of the Mammoth P™ on plant growth, flowering, and fruit productivity. Mammoth P™ is comprised of a consortium of four bacterial taxa (Enterobacter cloacae, Citrobacter freundii, Pseudomonas putida and Comamonas testosteroni;"
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4911952/
"Enterobacter cloacae is the most common Enterobacter species that can cause diseases in humans. This bacteria is widely distributed in water, sewage and soil, and in the feces of healthy persons. They are opportunistic pathogens and cause infections of wounds, the urinary tract and the respiratory tract. They can occasionally cause blood and brain infections, especially in immunocompromised individuals. Antibiotics are the mainstay of treatment for this infection. The goal of therapy is to eradicate the infection and to prevent complications."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC113501/
"The genus Citrobacter in the Enterobacteriaceae family consists of 13 currently recognized species, and among these, Citrobacter freundii and Citrobacter koseri are the most frequently associated with infection of humans. C. freundii, the focus of this study, can be found in the intestinal tracts of humans and other animals and from diverse environmental sources"
C. freundii causes a broad spectrum of infections as an opportunistic pathogen, including infections of the urinary tract, respiratory tract, wounds, and bloodstream. Limited outbreaks involving clonal drug-resistant isolates have also been observed in healthcare settings"
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3836000/
"Previously, Pseudomonas putida was considered a low-virulence pathogen and was recognized as a rare cause of bacteremia. Recently, however, multidrug-resistant and carbapenem-resistant P. putida isolates have emerged, causing difficult-to-treat nosocomial infections in seriously ill patients."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3434797/
"Comamonas testosteroni: An Unusual Bacteria Associated with Acute Appendicitis.
Among the 33 patients with C. testosteroni infections including the present case, four patients died."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4115943/
Medicated Bonsai
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Yea, I think I’ll hold off on the Mammoth P haha.
Medicated Bonsai
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Haha sorry guys but one last question @Lordhooha @xtsho . Is Real Growers Recharge basically the same thing? I've heard good things about this one. Mainly on youtube tho.
xtsho
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Recharge is just different bacteria. These bacteria are already found in soil so if you maintain a healthy soil they will already be present. No need to pay for it.
Medicated Bonsai
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Thank you
budman111
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No never tried and never will and no its not worth $250 a liter unless you're a complete mug, in that case you deserved to get robbed.
Medicated Bonsai
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Relax lol, it's not that serious.
Lordhooha
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I use recharge. Mammoth p and recharge are different. The roots do like the added bacteria. Recharge its expensive either. I usually do one week of worm casting tea and the next week or whenever I need to water next I do some recharge. Alternate those and when I pull my plant to up pot there’s nothing but thick pure white roots covering the outside of the root ball.
NrthrnMichigan
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I've been using MOAB pk boost with Mega Crop, also used GH dry koolbloom with mega crop. I've been adding the extra pk around week six because I have it laying around from previous grows. When I run out pf those products I'll give House and Gardens Shooting powder a try because I have that laying around as well.
Dr. Who
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Exactly!
Learn to brew your own Bio teas (AACT) Less then a buck for 5 gallons.
LMFAO.....Did you know that higher K levels near finish will restrict final THC counts? So does Mg... "P" is more of a ripening agent then a bud builder... Those at the end "boosters" are LOOSERS!
You loose too much to use them.
Limited early bloom use of Mg and K sulfates,,,DO increase trich and terp production....(The more trich's the more terps) The sulfur does (by type) enhance some terp profiles.
ALL supplementing of anything. Should END at week 6! Let the plant use any of those built up in the soil and have higher THC counts at the real finish in 3-4 more weeks.