jcurtis912
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Do any of you buy a 5 or 10 pack and just let them do their thing so you will have a few hundred extra seeds?
Making Seeds from Breeders Packs
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LadyZandra
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not exactly... will pick out the best female and IF we get a male (rarely) clone them both to keep them small... but we do crosses- not straight breeding...then will take them somewhere AWAY from the grow room to 'do their thing'... do not want our other plants "infested" with seeds! LOL!
You can get over 200 seeds from a 6" plant... done it...
If I want more plants of all the same pheno-- I just clone my best girls and either keep a Mom or keep on cloning...
You can get over 200 seeds from a 6" plant... done it...
If I want more plants of all the same pheno-- I just clone my best girls and either keep a Mom or keep on cloning...
silasraven
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if you want it be aware most if not all the bud will be seeds. the casings to the seeds will have thc but your in the hole for 100 or so waiting for 4-6 months for anything to smoke
jcurtis912
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Right, well in my experience, seeds seem to do better than cones. I know this is debate-able.....however this is MY experience. So I just ordered a 5 pack of TGA Agent Orange, and it came with CH9's Blue lemon Thai and Cluster fems as freebies. I think im going to to just let me males stay in there and pollinate them all to get hundreds-thousands of Agent Orange backups, since TGA gear always seem to be sold out. I figure this will give me a higher chance of getting a really good mother keeper. Also wouldn't mind some of those crosses ill get from pollen chucking into the blue lemon thai and the cluster. Im patient enough to wait, because this will pay off in the end.
bamacheese
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Yes, and I would highly recommend all of you do it.
Quick explanation:
You pay $10 to $200 for 10 regular seeds. You have to realize you've paid a price for the genetics, for a lifetime. While selecting what you think is "the best male" and "the best female" seems like a grand idea, the truth is, you won't truly know until you have multiple runs of multiple phenos, where you could have positively identified certain phenos, and determined what you are after.
When you buy a 10 pack and let the grow "run wild" as you could say, you reserve more variances in the gene pool. Afterward, you will have hundreds of seeds to do your selections with. It is common sense, and I would highly recommend it.
I have a lifetime supply of Soma's Somango and Sensi Seed's Juicy Fruit from doing this. I'm working on doing the same thing with Chernobyl and Plushberry, and possibly even knocking them up with each other in a separate room, and getting those strains on lockdown.
Yeah, I dont let them "do their thing" I will seperate the males and if any look good, collect some pollen. Then brush some of the pollen on to a few of the wispy buds at the bottom. I end up with some where between 50-100. I have been working with a plushberry X killingfields into the 2nd generation now. Working selection for the 3rd generation.
jcurtis912
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This is why I completely disagree with that method. For your first seed run, you should let all of them pollinate at will. I say this because there no way you can tell just by simply looking at a plant if there is elite genetics in its DNA. Just because it was expressed in that particular father, doesn't mean it wont be expressed in any of its offspring. Any living species always gets better when there is variation in the gene pool, so by removing all but one father, you are potentially missing out on some elite genes.
jcurtis912
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I think seed banks and breeders love the way people are doing it now because people will go out and buy 100 dollars worth of seeds when they should have just made their own supply in the first place
potpimp
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I have to disagree on that; it's the opposite. I'm sure you're aware of the Second Law of Thermodynamics.
jcurtis912
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Touche', that was a good one. You are a witty gentleman and a potsmoker.
jcurtis912
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However...."The 2nd Law of Thermodynamics and Entropy disproves evolution because it states that as useful energy becomes unuseful energy, entropy increases (entropy being a measure of disorder and randomness in a system). Evolution requires things to increase in order and complexity and is thus in conflict with the law and therefore cannot be true."
jcurtis912
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Thus...."The 2nd Law of Thermodynamics concerns closed systems. (A closed system being a system in which no outside energy enters the system and no energy [useful or unuseful] leaves the system). As useful energy is converted into unuseful energy in a closed system, entropy increases in that closed system. Planet Earth is not a closed system. The sun, for example, pumps solar energy into plants and animals showing that we are indeed dealing with an open system."
potpimp
Sector 5 Moderator
Well specifically what I was talking about, and you are absolutely right that it disproves evolution, is that the universe tends to disorder rather than order. In other words if we take a piece of stainless steel and toss it outside, it eventually breaks down into iron, carbon, chromium, fig newtons, etc.
