M4S73R's Perpetual Organic LED Grow.

Somewhere I heard that its hard to see where to go if you cant remember where you've been. This may read a little different then other post due to me being long winded, percise, comical, stoned, that list can go on.
So its 2012. I join rollitup and Start my first thread. My T5 FFOF grow I inherited a couple T5s got some FFOF and 1 gallon smart pots 3 pack nutes and away we went. Talk about a first time shit show. I sprouted 8 bag seeds and got 1 damn female. (there's a thread out there with me raging and shit). I named her Bridget. She became my first bonsi Mum. So now a I got a female and I had to learn to clone. Nailed in first go. got 3 solid clones, threw then into veg and flipped them. I did several this away to get a perpetual grow going.



But I wasn't producing enough so I jumped to 3 gallon Pots, they were much better. Below Is a Pic of Bridget.



From Here I grew for a couple of years. Sadly I was still not getting the results that I wanted. Then one fateful evening one of the Ballast burnt out of the 8 Bulb T5. So I bought a 600 watt light and went VERTICAL!!! The family was running out before the next plant was ready. Honestly I was broke as shit so we had to upgrade on a budget. Hello 600w HPS and 3.5 gallon hempy buckets lucas formula soon after!
The next pic is of the 600 watt finishing off the T5HO. I moved both of the T5s to a little veg box.



This Pic below is the 600 with a ring of Hempys growing a way. All of them spaced out in bloom. I was doing 6-8 plants. Shit that was a long time ago.I think it was set so I could pull a blooming plant out a week. But in 3.5 Thats was about 2.5 ounces. It was almost there. But i started to run into issues of getting rid of used up perlite or trying to wash it. It was a messy PITA but fucking hell it was cheap. Seriously for the kids in the back, this that hella tight budget growing shit. This was also the point where I had started ordering femized seeds and growing strains. Up till this point i have just been growing and cloning Bridget. (best bag seed i ever had. Miss that bitch)



But I was onto something. And I liked how the lighting worked. "Ummm hey RIU, I'm back and changing my shit up. We're going to leave dear sweet cheap Lucas Hempy behind for ORGANIC NO TILL 25GALLON POTS AND DUEL 1K LIGHTS!!! OOOOOOOHHHHHHHH YEAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! Let me blow this bonus check.

So 650 bucks of Soil from buildasoil shipped. 25 gallon fabric pots. Custom made rolling flower planters. 2 Digilux 1k Ballast with duel vert sockets. a 8 inch fan filter combo, worm bin, compost tea brewer, clover, worms and BOOM. The massive Super Silo Z. (where that dragon ball theme song shit when you NEED it!)



If you would like to see How this developed check out the other Thread In my Sig. This is my No Till Vertical Grow. Only 6 pages. I tend to make big posts then Disapear for a bit then come back with a big update. I dont want to turn this into a full recounting of the system I have used for the last 5 years. But cause I'm a tease like that here is a taste.



OK OK. Hope you check that out. MOVING ON!! (I did warn you I was long winded correct? I am pretty stoned right now.)

I was good guys. I was planning on riding that train like forever. Then I met her and her kid. And now the family goes from 3 smokers to 4 and FUCKS THE WHOLE SYSTEM. Im running out again. Time to split up the system. Jumping to 2 5x5s. throwing in a couple of extra fans. Make a couple of Intake dust filters. Let me show you this. cost me 4 bucks for the tote sans lid. I had the self tapping screws and duck tape. 2 bucks for a furnace filter and DONE! (oops says I can only do 10) NEXT POST!

Now where were we? Ahh yes the 6 dollar Intake dust filters.



Here we go guys. The system today is 2 5x5s with 5 10 gallon pots. 4 Parafactworks 1k LEDs Same soil I been using. However the pots contain also a thin layer of ewc and 2 inches of Happy Frog on top. Strain is Gorilla Cookies (Gorilla Glue #4xGirl Scout Cookies) again. Just harvested a very poor run of it due to some watering issues as well as wrong cover crop planted.



In the other tent we have 3 Critical in the 25 gallon pots. They are about to get flipped once I top again. They got some Nitrogen issues but they're on the mend once i ripped that cover crop up and planted clover with a few Teas. These are being bloomed by a Spiderfarmer 4k. This will proly be the bloom room with the other tent being a veg tent/overflow Bloom tent.



Im going to finish up tonight with some random pics of a some equipment in my grow. Feel free to comment on my Journal. Be back once we drop those clones in the pots!

Last few pics.

m4s73r said:

Somewhere I heard that its hard to see where to go if you cant remember where you've been. This may read a little different then other post due to me being long winded, percise, comical, stoned, that list can go on.
So its 2012. I join rollitup and Start my first thread. My T5 FFOF grow I inherited a couple T5s got some FFOF and 1 gallon smart pots 3 pack nutes and away we went. Talk about a first time shit show. I sprouted 8 bag seeds and got 1 damn female. (there's a thread out there with me raging and shit). I named her Bridget. She became my first bonsi Mum. So now a I got a female and I had to learn to clone. Nailed in first go. got 3 solid clones, threw then into veg and flipped them. I did several this away to get a perpetual grow going.
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But I wasn't producing enough so I jumped to 3 gallon Pots, they were much better. Below Is a Pic of Bridget.

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From Here I grew for a couple of years. Sadly I was still not getting the results that I wanted. Then one fateful evening one of the Ballast burnt out of the 8 Bulb T5. So I bought a 600 watt light and went VERTICAL!!! The family was running out before the next plant was ready. Honestly I was broke as shit so we had to upgrade on a budget. Hello 600w HPS and 3.5 gallon hempy buckets lucas formula soon after!
The next pic is of the 600 watt finishing off the T5HO. I moved both of the T5s to a little veg box.

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This Pic below is the 600 with a ring of Hempys growing a way. All of them spaced out in bloom. I was doing 6-8 plants. Shit that was a long time ago.I think it was set so I could pull a blooming plant out a week. But in 3.5 Thats was about 2.5 ounces. It was almost there. But i started to run into issues of getting rid of used up perlite or trying to wash it. It was a messy PITA but fucking hell it was cheap. Seriously for the kids in the back, this that hella tight budget growing shit. This was also the point where I had started ordering femized seeds and growing strains. Up till this point i have just been growing and cloning Bridget. (best bag seed i ever had. Miss that bitch)
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But I was onto something. And I liked how the lighting worked. "Ummm hey RIU, I'm back and changing my shit up. We're going to leave dear sweet cheap Lucas Hempy behind for ORGANIC NO TILL 25GALLON POTS AND DUEL 1K LIGHTS!!! OOOOOOOHHHHHHHH YEAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! Let me blow this bonus check.

So 650 bucks of Soil from buildasoil shipped. 25 gallon fabric pots. Custom made rolling flower planters. 2 Digilux 1k Ballast with duel vert sockets. a 8 inch fan filter combo, worm bin, compost tea brewer, clover, worms and BOOM. The massive Super Silo Z. (where that dragon ball theme song shit when you NEED it!)

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If you would like to see How this developed check out the other Thread In my Sig. This is my No Till Vertical Grow. Only 6 pages. I tend to make big posts then Disapear for a bit then come back with a big update. I dont want to turn this into a full recounting of the system I have used for the last 5 years. But cause I'm a tease like that here is a taste.

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OK OK. Hope you check that out. MOVING ON!! (I did warn you I was long winded correct? I am pretty stoned right now.)

I was good guys. I was planning on riding that train like forever. Then I met her and her kid. And now the family goes from 3 smokers to 4 and FUCKS THE WHOLE SYSTEM. Im running out again. Time to split up the system. Jumping to 2 5x5s. throwing in a couple of extra fans. Make a couple of Intake dust filters. Let me show you this. cost me 4 bucks for the tote sans lid. I had the self tapping screws and duck tape. 2 bucks for a furnace filter and DONE! (oops says I can only do 10) NEXT POST!

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Hmmmmmmm...

The old super silo sure brings back memories for me, too!

So as I am adapting to splitting my room I decided to put all my dirt from the last 5 years into a 4x4 bed indoors. Been doing no till outdoors for awhile in my garden. After moving my 25 gallons around i realized that I was ready for a bed.

So is the second tent we got some Gorrilla Cookies clones that have started growing. one took off really good. the other are just now catching up. In the back 2 we have a couple of new seeds started. C99 and WW/BB. I personally love C99 and my wife has been wanting me to grow this freebie WW/BB for awhile now. And aloe of course for all its myriad of uses.


This front clone is a beast. See what happened was, I that I would get cute and use a aerocloner. First time it worked great. And other then the front clone, nothing else has grown at all root wise. So I said "eff this im not a hydro guy" and stuck all the cutting out of the cloner and into pots. A few of them were sketchy but when the wife bets you that you cant "save her girls" you prove how strong this wonderful plant is. What she dont know is im going to kill all but 4 of them. But they will be good to use to teach her how to train plants, topping, super cropping, ect. Should be a good time.



Our 2 future moms. Wife will be learning how to main line these. and how to clone tops for mums.



Here is bloom. In the corners we have gorrilla cookies. In the center we have a very sad mother plant that i threw in just to take up some space. i might get a but off it. dont care so much as i just want it to make some mulch as well. She may not make it with the vigor of the other ones.



Oh that poor old mother plant. LOL




We'll be lifting those skirts in the next weeks or so. Sitting at Day 6 of bloom.

Just a quick pic update. Things are off and running well. Second bed should be in Monday and I'll start working on getting that set up. Weather has been horrible so I havnt had a chance to go locate my wood yet.






A little more trimming. Ill do a full defoliation when stretch is done.



A little bit of a hole here, hopefully we get that filled up during stretch here in the next few days.

Well shit, As soon as i posted this the wife yells out that I got mushrooms.

Well another update as we go along here. First we got the skirts up a little further. I shouldn't have planted that old mother in the center. We trimmed her up hard so she wouldn't block out the others. But we put them through defoliation. In 2 days it looked like I needed to do it again. Were 36 ish days out yet. here is a before and after.


With Taxes and some saving I'm planning on getting a new light. Just cant decide between Chilled x6 600 DIY/GC e720, HLG Scorpion Rspec/ GC e680. Sadly in my tents I don't have the vertical height for the HLG 650R/Timber Fatty. I know i want to be able to get close to them to maximse my plant size. Plan on ordering that this weekend if all goes well. LED are a PITA to learn.



So this was the cycle that we re-amend the soil. I got something new this year rather then my normal coots mix. I went with their Craft Blend. 44 lb bag. Followed it up with some mulch and all the leaves from the trimming. worms should plow through all that pretty quick.

This weekend we will be putting together a fresh No till bed. Im going to really get a bunch of pictures so I can show I do mine. This will be my 5th bed im creating. Having learned a bit from doing some friend no till beds and some reading and such. The weather has not been very cooperative the last couple of weeks. But I should be able to get the forest wood I need and Ive spoken with my Nursery guy and it should be fun.

Were doing a Hugelculture esq layered raised bed. The first 6 inches of the bed will be a hay, wood branches between 1-1.5"Dx40"L. In the center will be a rotting log. On top of that a mix of 8cf baccto, 2 cf perlite, 5 cf of compost, 25 lbs of the Craft Blend. 2 lbs of European Night crawlers and 2 lbs of red wigglers. Mulch and clover. I got 4 plants that are well past ready to go in. Just more clones. I tend to just run the same strain a few times from clones till im bored with it. It keep my variables down.

Ill be back this weekend to ad some more to this. I really wish I could sell all this extra grow stuff I have laying around here. HID ballasts, Fabric Pots, Shit i proly got enough stuff to put together a entire grow room now. Maybe I need to put a package together and sell it on ebay... Let me know what you all do with your old grow equipment.

Tonight we have started the second grow bed. This one is for my medical patient. We have a 4x4 grassroots pot.
This pot will consist of rotting wood in a Hukelkulture style of grow.

Here is some of the smaller stuff. The focus is either rotting or very dry and hard. We didi well. Oak and Maple like i wanted. Tomorrow I go and get some alfalfa to throw over it along with some of the BAS Craft Blend and some more mulch. Saturday well be mixing soil and filling the rest of the bed. I got some clones started and ready to be xplanted next week.



This was our rotting log we found. Once we got it in here you can see how it was broken apart. This log was kinda quartered and spread out. Then went on the branches. followed by a few coubic feet of some mulch i had laying around.









(coming soon)

Got the new bed filled. Here is the recipie
3 bags of Baccto (8.4 cuft) ,a bag of Vermiculite (4 cuft) , Bag and a half of composted cotton burr (3 cuft)



4 bags of Mushroom compost (3 cuft), 20 lbs of Amendment mix. (BAS Nutrient Mix)



So last night we left off with a pot looking like this



First thing we want to do is get some of our nutrients mix thrown on top. I used around 10 cups. Then we will want to add some green. Lawn clippings are good for this. Its Febuary so we went with Alfalfa hay. If thats not available then pellets will work as well.



Its important to water this all down. That wood will hold A LOT of water once saturated. this bed is going to settle quite a bit over the next month.

Next we want to dump in 1/3rd of our soil mix. Now when you mix this bottom half you dont need to use as much Vermiculite.


Dont mix more then you can handle. Take your time, break it up and mix it well. Next post

Once you dump this in take your lawn rake or shovel and bang around in that wood and let that all settle down into the wood. I then added a covering of amendments over that.


work that in to that mid layer. Then we just mix up the rest of our mix and fill up the pot. make sure to pour it to the outside edge moving in.


For cost purposes so I dont forget down the road
Pot was 78 + 12 for PVC $90
Nutrients was 115, but i used only half of that 44 lbs bag, $57.50
215 at the Nursery
4x4 Fill cost = $362.50 for 18 Cuft of soil.
So 5ish cuft of wood material.
The wood saved me $100. I gave 50 to the kid for collecting the wood and mixing all the soil. (good deal for me!)

So now its slowly watering it, running sprayers, getting some flat rocks to toss on it, order some worms and start growing the clover in.

So today marks the 35th day of flower. Photo time.

I always have liked the under shots. Im going to be honest guys, a little drunk tonight, So not doing much in the way of photo editing or color filter. these are all with my cell phone.

(coming soon)

Nice work! I’ll be building a similar bed outside in my garden. I’ll be picking your brain sometime soon. I like the idea that the wood fills up the bottom half and benefits the whole bed.

For sure man, Im always here or in the Rols thread.

We're cooking now.
Air intake temp 73.1 outside pot temp 84.4



Soon as my lights come in well get that cover crop layed and mulch on that. Expect proly 3 weeks before we get anything going in that pot. will have to see. Also understand that there are no worms in this yet. Dont cook your worms.

New bed temp dropped since last night down to 81 today. This time next week i should be able to start some cover crop.

On Bloom side of things we are 37 days in and buds are starting to plump. New LED lights have been shipped. They should get here with a good 25 days left on these. Theyre stronger lights then the SF and 2 cheapies.
Soil is staying hydrated. have been a 48 hour water hold on them to let the mulch dry out a bit. Currently watering for 2 min every 6 hours. Im thinking of changing it to 15 min every 48 hours. Well see how it looks when they're off the hold.

I never fall to learn something scrolling through here.

Cool shit