Lst?

ziggittyzag420 · May 4, 2011

when do i start LST'ng? 12/12? do i wait for a certain number of nodes?

this is them bout 2 days ago,i would've taken a pic before posting this thread but they're on night cycle 18/6.the plant grew its set of 5's since this pic was taken,ill post som pics up later(better quality)

LostReefSponger · May 4, 2011

You don't need to wait until 12/12 to LST, I can't say when the earliest you can LST is, but you can LST whenever you feel your plant can handle it, hope someone has better info for you haha, sorry I couldn't add too much, still new to growing.

goten · May 4, 2011

You can lst as soon as you can tie them to something

here is a 12/12 from seed grow that i did lst on ( turned out male though )

but as you can see i tied it down every chance i had lol

ValiD · May 4, 2011

What strain is it?

I started LST when I had 2 sets of true leaves, but the genetics were a bit different. You want to lst when the main stem is still flexible. After about 2 or 3 weeks in vegging (again, strain dependant) the stem will harden and you will not be able to do lst without breaking it.

goten · May 4, 2011

ValiD said:
What strain is it?

I started LST when I had 2 sets of true leaves, but the genetics were a bit different. You want to lst when the main stem is still flexible. After about 2 or 3 weeks in vegging (again, strain dependant) the stem will harden and you will not be able to do lst without breaking it.

Pure Afgani ,

you can lst any plant ,

first like you said start while the plant is young and the stem is flexible

also

its not strain dependent , its just how you do it ,

if you want to lst a branch but its pretty thick then you just go and bend it over then yea its gonna break

but if you take that same branch and start squeezing on it with you fingers and soften it up first

you can then bend it without breaking it

you might get little splits afterwards but that's ok ,

it will be fine ,

ziggittyzag420 · May 4, 2011

theyre about 15 days old ima start the LST tonight when i get back home,its a random bagseed, its starting to look quite bushy brochochos lol i better be nourishing some fem. only time will tell..ill post pics up in a bit,i gotta go on a mission to find a camera :-|

and thanks goten my stems a fat fuck so u answered my question before i even thought of it +rep i wish i can give u another cus DBZs the bomb

Jason2011 · May 4, 2011

wait til 5th set appear and top it back to the 3rd set, wait for your horizontal growth to kick off and keep them 60 degrees apart veg for 4 more weeks then flower. itll end up 1.5 diameter and about 40-50 cm high colas. i made up a wire wheel jig with 2 wheels one holds them down during veg and the other holds them up while flowering. required if you dont want them snapping last 2-3 weeks of flowering

ValiD · May 5, 2011

goten said:
Pure Afgani ,

you can lst any plant ,

first like you said start while the plant is young and the stem is flexible

also

its not strain dependent , its just how you do it ,

if you want to lst a branch but its pretty thick then you just go and bend it over then yea its gonna break

but if you take that same branch and start squeezing on it with you fingers and soften it up first

you can then bend it without breaking it

you might get little splits afterwards but that's ok ,

it will be fine ,

I based the affirmation that it's strain dependant on the fact that I currently grow 2 plants: a big bud and a bubblelicious. The big bud didn't show very much signs of side branches growth until I LST'd it. However, the bubblelicious just grew side branches from the start, without any LST-ing (and the main stem "woodened" after only about 10 days in vegging, so I don't know if I could lst it, even if I wanted to - without breaking the main stem, that is):

The plant shown above was started on 14 or 15 April (so it's about 20 days old now). I might be wrong on this, and if I am, please tell me what the real reason could be for this

Thanks and happy growing!

ziggittyzag420 · May 5, 2011

here (she*) is had to take pics with cell.plants bout 16 days old. started lst today the internodel growth on this plant was great but the lst made it great(er) hows it lookin people?ima start flowering (her*) tommorow with the 24 hour blackout.

mike tafoya · May 5, 2011

looks good bro i jst posted pics of my first grow also is it good to start flowering with the first 24hrs in total darkness

ziggittyzag420 · May 5, 2011

it just induces flowering a bit faster than the 12/12 from the start

ziggittyzag420 · May 5, 2011

its like 2 night cycles in one like a head start

ziggittyzag420 · May 5, 2011

dont trip im still a noob bro! when lst'ng your tieng up the stems not the leafs if thats your question, i believe theirs a few explanations on lst in this thread u should read them man, helped me out

ValiD · May 6, 2011

olylifter420 said:
noob question, but do lst the fans too?

Why would you do that? Leaves don't grow branches. I don't even see how that would be possible, anyways, you would probably end up with a couple hundred strings attached to your plant. As ziggittyzag suggested, try a search on the forum for LST and you'll see what that's about. You can start here. I know this guide was posted around here somewhere, but can't remember now exactly where...

@ziggity: did you just tie the base of the main stem, or the top as well? The pictures aren't very clear, sorry. That's done to counter the tying of the top, and keep your main stem in place. Check the above guide if this doesn't make sense.

ziggittyzag420 · May 6, 2011

ValiD said:
Why would you do that? Leaves don't grow branches. I don't even see how that would be possible, anyways, you would probably end up with a couple hundred strings attached to your plant. As ziggittyzag suggested, try a search on the forum for LST and you'll see what that's about. You can start here. I know this guide was posted around here somewhere, but can't remember now exactly where...

@ziggity: did you just tie the base of the main stem, or the top as well? The pictures aren't very clear, sorry. That's done to counter the tying of the top, and keep your main stem in place. Check the above guide if this doesn't make sense.

ya got 1 string on the bottom of the stem to act as an anchor,and 1 tied just below the top node,i got it at about a 60 degree angle rite now,srry the pics are shit bro cant find a decent camera for the life of me :-?

olylifter420 · May 6, 2011

Hey, thanks guys!! I was just trying to learn some more stuff on LST. Im quite hesitant to do lst because i have no experiene with it and dont want to hurt the plant. If the plant is 25 days old, is that to old to begin? Flowering will not start till maybe 2 weeks more

ValiD said:
Why would you do that? Leaves don't grow branches. I don't even see how that would be possible, anyways, you would probably end up with a couple hundred strings attached to your plant. As ziggittyzag suggested, try a search on the forum for LST and you'll see what that's about. You can start here. I know this guide was posted around here somewhere, but can't remember now exactly where...

@ziggity: did you just tie the base of the main stem, or the top as well? The pictures aren't very clear, sorry. That's done to counter the tying of the top, and keep your main stem in place. Check the above guide if this doesn't make sense.

Cdubya · May 6, 2011

True I have lst'd master kush and she's not a big fan, ak-48 goes crazy under lst, i had 16 colas on the last one I did. I would start now and get that thing nice and bushy before flowering and then hold on.

mimmen · May 6, 2011

The beauty of lst is there's no right or wrong way. I tie some fans if they are blocking light. Tieing them out ofthe way is better than removing them. A trick that I use is to wait untill you do your first transplant. When you put the plant in its new home, position it at an angle, it makes it easier to get started.

olylifter420 · May 6, 2011

I dont know if you were referring to me, but here it goes anyways. I just dont understand how you guys make the plant so bushy like the one mimmen did. It is a big mystery to me still!!! I will give it a try. after tying down the main stem, what do you do next? do you just wait for new growth out the bent over stem? please, i am new to all of this, so any help is greatly appreciated.

Cdubya said:
True I have lst'd master kush and she's not a big fan, ak-48 goes crazy under lst, i had 16 colas on the last one I did. I would start now and get that thing nice and bushy before flowering and then hold on.

mimmen · May 6, 2011

olylifter420 said:
I dont know if you were referring to me, but here it goes anyways. I just dont understand how you guys make the plant so bushy like the one mimmen did. It is a big mystery to me still!!! I will give it a try. after tying down the main stem, what do you do next? do you just wait for new growth out the bent over stem? please, i am new to all of this, so any help is greatly appreciated.

I start to spread my plants out by tying the side shoots in the direction I want them. Then those side shoots grow more tops that form the bush. I can't stress enough the fact that there is not a set way of doing it. I use plastic grow bags and then i cut up wire hangers I hook the hanger into the bag and then the other side around the stem. Sometimes I will just put a j hook on one side of the hanger and then push the straight side of the hanger in the dirt, and the hook around one of the shoots. Keep in mind that all your really trying to do is get more light to the stem to promote more side shoots, that will become large colas. So, spread that bitch out. Once your main stem is pulled lower than the side shoots it tricks those smaller shoots into thinking they are main shoots. Play around with it, and experiment. Some people say to water them first, but I disagree. The plants give much more when they are thirsty. Hope this helps shed some light, lst is one of the easiest methods of growing as soon as you get over the fear that your going to mess something up.

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