Looking for a good RSO Extraction Machine. Please help!

Moses777

Member
Hello all. It is very easy to find good CO2 extraction machines on the web, but why can I not find RSO oil extraction machines? The only thing I can find are machines that are made from people's homes. Why is there not a company like Apeks who makes RSO oil extraction machines? Please help. Thanks. Moses
 

Grow Goddess

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There is no such thing, no need. In my opinion there is no need for any extraction machine. Everyone does have their preference. My preference is 200 proof ethanol, canning jars, filters, freezer, pyrex baking dish, fan, and dry atmosphere. Naturally decarb your concentrate with no heat.

Want to learn more? google Grow Goddess's blogs.

RSO is real good too. All you need is: canning jars, filters, rice cooker, metal measuring cup, coffee MUG warmer.

RSO made with the simple tools mentioned above. The darker oil is the lower grade. Just about as good as the high grade except for the taste if you choose to vape it. The key for me to get it to come out clean is 3 quick frozen extractions. Just shake it in the jar for abut 30 seconds and filter it.
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lio lacidem

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Because no machine is needed to make rso. You can get an iso-witch I believe the end result would be rso
 

Moses777

Member
Thanks for your reply! I was aware that there are currently no machines available because essentially you do not need one, but using crock pots and rice cookers seems very tedious, especially if one was looking to mass produce it, using say, 100 lbs per month of either flower or trim, or both. I have looked into the iso-witch as well, but it seems very Mickey Mouse. Wish there was a machine, even one that may be used for other purposes like peanut oil or canola oil, which could be used to make RSO oil.
 

Grow Goddess

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Thanks for your reply! I was aware that there are currently no machines available because essentially you do not need one, but using crock pots and rice cookers seems very tedious, especially if one was looking to mass produce it, using say, 100 lbs per month of either flower or trim, or both. I have looked into the iso-witch as well, but it seems very Mickey Mouse. Wish there was a machine, even one that may be used for other purposes like peanut oil or canola oil, which could be used to make RSO oil.
You are right. that is what we need, but where I am, you would be put in prison so fast it would be ridiculous if not shot on site!

Actually the rice cookers and that would not be all that difficult to do 100 pounds per month. It would be like paying one employee full time. Literally to commercialize it, you can go to the extreme with big giant walk in freezers. You could have 55 gallon drums to do the extraction in. Electric motors could shake the drums. I have all kinds of ideas. I never thought about it that big, but actually, the bigger you go, the easier it can get.

Really, you could make a custom indoor swimming pool and do 1000 pounds at once. People around the world would want to score as long as you were producing top notch oil that has proven to work. There are millions of people that need the stuff. The naturally decarbed oil is even better yet.

Anybody looking to doing that type of quantity. I would consider relocating if it pays well. I like CO, especially Evergreen, up in the mountains with an awesome view of Denver.

Really though, if it is allowed, this is a multi-billion dollar industry. The concentrated cannabis oil. There is only one thing in the way, federal government. I guess maybe the money to get started. If the government allowed it and you have the cash to get started, that is what people want around the world. Medicinal quality oil for medicinal and recreational use.

Potentially it is a trillion dollar business. Just like the pharmaceutical companies. If we were allowed to do such a thing, I truly believe we could put multiple billion dollar pharmaceutical companies out of business and become a trillion dollar corporation. It may take 5 years. Again the biggest problem is the government and the start up cost.

100 pounds per month would not be too difficult with 4 or 5 rice cookers. It would keep one employee very busy every day.

I'm game if the right opportunity was to arise.
 

Moses777

Member
You are right. that is what we need, but where I am, you would be put in prison so fast it would be ridiculous if not shot on site!

Actually the rice cookers and that would not be all that difficult to do 100 pounds per month. It would be like paying one employee full time. Literally to commercialize it, you can go to the extreme with big giant walk in freezers. You could have 55 gallon drums to do the extraction in. Electric motors could shake the drums. I have all kinds of ideas. I never thought about it that big, but actually, the bigger you go, the easier it can get.

Really, you could make a custom indoor swimming pool and do 1000 pounds at once. People around the world would want to score as long as you were producing top notch oil that has proven to work. There are millions of people that need the stuff. The naturally decarbed oil is even better yet.

Anybody looking to doing that type of quantity. I would consider relocating if it pays well. I like CO, especially Evergreen, up in the mountains with an awesome view of Denver.

Really though, if it is allowed, this is a multi-billion dollar industry. The concentrated cannabis oil. There is only one thing in the way, federal government. I guess maybe the money to get started. If the government allowed it and you have the cash to get started, that is what people want around the world. Medicinal quality oil for medicinal and recreational use.

Potentially it is a trillion dollar business. Just like the pharmaceutical companies. If we were allowed to do such a thing, I truly believe we could put multiple billion dollar pharmaceutical companies out of business and become a trillion dollar corporation. It may take 5 years. Again the biggest problem is the government and the start up cost.

100 pounds per month would not be too difficult with 4 or 5 rice cookers. It would keep one employee very busy every day.

I'm game if the right opportunity was to arise.
Grow Goddess. I would like to learn more about you. You have really caught my attention. To answer as much of what you have said in a nutshell, there is a real opportunity here in SoCal, the start up is actually not as expensive as you are thinking, the concept is indeed centered around the formation of a pharmaceutical company, and you have certainly really caught my attention. Let's talk. I am new to this site and I am trying to figure out how to PM you. Please beat me to it and send me your phone number. I can call you anytime tomorrow. Thanks :)
 

Grow Goddess

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Grow Goddess. I would like to learn more about you. You have really caught my attention. To answer as much of what you have said in a nutshell, there is a real opportunity here in SoCal, the start up is actually not as expensive as you are thinking, the concept is indeed centered around the formation of a pharmaceutical company, and you have certainly really caught my attention. Let's talk. I am new to this site and I am trying to figure out how to PM you. Please beat me to it and send me your phone number. I can call you anytime tomorrow. Thanks :)
Well, I'm an open book when it comes to medical marijuana. Ask away.

Everything I know is in my blogs. Google Grow Goddess' Blog. My journals here got a bit messed up with the upgrade.

ND Sap is the most medicinal way that I know of. At the least it is double the medicinal value of any RSO in my opinion. Unless of course the RSO has additional terpenes added back to it, I am just guessing though.

Anyway, I am all for patients having safe access to oil to treat their illness. Especially serious illnesses. I am all for the people to have the right to grow their own. That is priority number one. Priority two is patients in need having safe access to it. I am all for somebody that can produce top notch quality ND Sap or even RSO and be able to offer it out to cancer patients, and who knows what other illnesses it can benefit. Gout is one that I know of. The list goes on. With ND Sap, who knows? I have seen it do things that RSO would not touch.

All my information is available, just a matter of somebody doing it. Colorado is the place to be, the mountains are for me!! :D

I have had many offers, you name it, I have had it. I was kind of joking around. I work full time and I wouldn't trade that for growing unless the feds were on board and I could have insurance and it be a legitimate job. Due to the heavy restrictions I have seen for myself, I have changed my growing habits and goals. I have decided to make growing easy on me and I provide free meds to 3 patients. I only have a set up for 2 actually. They are not heavy users and 2 of the patients don't even consume much more than their free amount and that doesn't bother me at all. Just makes it all the more easy on me. As the law has not progressed in our direction, to help people, I have been downsizing and changing my goals. I have waited long enough. I stay as low key as possible. The only entertainment I have besides my hermit lifestyle is the internet. I am content.

To back up ND Sap and RSO check out my quote below, my honest opinion from what I have seen.
 

Grow Goddess

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most serious extractors use BHO/Propane extraction machines
http://terppextractors.com/collections/frontpage/products/mk-4c-terpenator



You can sell this stuff to clubs all day and they will buy it up. RSO is more niche since you can't smoke it as well
I agree, but also disagree. There are two sides to this and I have seen both. One side is yours where people buy it up by the gram for low medicinal use to enjoyable recreational use. It is probably the king when it comes to doing dabs. Then again, I would put some QWISO up against any BHO, and especially professionally made QWET with 200 proof. If not dry ice added on top of it :D.

Yes, BHO is the leader when it comes to the number of clients, looks, convenience, this is in reference to good looking shatter and there is nothing wrong with that. I enjoy QWISO made for that purpose, but not for smoking.

RSO and especially potentially ND Sap, would sell much differently, people would not be looking for a gram. They are looking to cure their cancer or other illness. Yes, there are users that don't have a serious illness that prefer to eat their concentrates, but RSO rules in the cancer community. I have heard of people coughing up $5K to make a purchase from somebody they only met online. They are desperate. That is just the beginning, how many people are getting jacked from that fake CBD oil? If you have a reputation for selling quality concentrates for kicking cancer's ass, you will have people knocking down your door. They are willing to take out a loan for it, drain their bank accounts, they are truly desperate. The best I can help them is by posting my experiences and pointing them to my blogs. I don't break my state laws. After a COA ruling deeming concentrates illegal, I no longer supply the oil to my patients. Luckily both of my cancer patients were taken care of by that point. I admit, I make small amounts for sampling and sharing the results. That is all now. It has been fun and I like it all. I can't personally compare RSO to BHO, I have never made BHO. They are both popular in two different parts of the community. The users all come from different situations usually.

I know 2 of my patients are afraid of the RSO and especially the ND Sap from past experience. It is just so potent and it last so long. They have responsibilities and not everybody wants a 12 to 24 hour buzz. It is difficult to tune in just the right amount to take when it is that potent. I think 2 out of my 3 patients would probably prefer the BHO.
 

Grow Goddess

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Hey guys, I forgot to mention. I have been contacted by many people in regards to RSO and being desperate. Sending me horror stories of their or a loved one's illness.

There are two types, the majority I believe they are in desperate need. There are a few here and there I am very confident were internet police so to speak. LEO trying to get me to sell them oil. It was quite obvious to me that is who, what they were.

A lot of people have seen my posts and blogs and am probably a nice target. All I can say is be careful. The consequences of getting sucked into court can be extreme and can ruin your life.
 

oilmkr420

Active Member
Propane works better than butane. Esp under pressure w a little bit of moonshine, makes one sick extract.
 

Moses777

Member
Hey guys, I forgot to mention. I have been contacted by many people in regards to RSO and being desperate. Sending me horror stories of their or a loved one's illness.

There are two types, the majority I believe they are in desperate need. There are a few here and there I am very confident were internet police so to speak. LEO trying to get me to sell them oil. It was quite obvious to me that is who, what they were.

A lot of people have seen my posts and blogs and am probably a nice target. All I can say is be careful. The consequences of getting sucked into court can be extreme and can ruin your life.
Sorry to hear that there are people trying to set you up. I am wondering if that is why you did not respond to my email, or did you not receive it. Perhaps it went into your spam? Again, I would like to get to know you better. While we are starting up in soCal, pending our success, we intend to expand into other states, including CO. I understand that CO is where your heart is, so perhaps there may be something there where you help on a consulting level in exchange for a position when and if we are able to get into CO someday. Sort of putting the cart before the horse but I believe in what we are doing and I believe it will be successful, so therefore, its hard not to believe we will be in other states someday.
 

Fadedawg

Well-Known Member
Hey guys, I forgot to mention. I have been contacted by many people in regards to RSO and being desperate. Sending me horror stories of their or a loved one's illness.

There are two types, the majority I believe they are in desperate need. There are a few here and there I am very confident were internet police so to speak. LEO trying to get me to sell them oil. It was quite obvious to me that is who, what they were.

A lot of people have seen my posts and blogs and am probably a nice target. All I can say is be careful. The consequences of getting sucked into court can be extreme and can ruin your life.
We structured Skunk Pharm Research, so as to teach public classes to medical patients, and to donate concentrates pro bono to medical cannabis patients holding an OMMP card. We've done so successfully, despite obvious LEO students, ongoing solicitors, and internet police, by a simple ghosting principle.

Ghosting means that if you conduct your affairs by the rules, LEO is so busy with folks who don't obey the rules, that they will lose interest in you and concentrate on the bad boys.

There is always an ossifer of the law with a personal agenda, or a DA with an erection willing to go to any extremes, including supressing evidence, but on whole the officers and DA's concentrate their efforts on where the action provides the most bang for the buck and the most money confiscating assets from "ill gotten gains."

I opine that you should conduct your affairs with acceptance of the fact that LEO abounds. With what we are paying them at taxpayer expense, if they weren't enforcing the laws of the land, they should be fired.

Limit your exposure to the low life miscreants, masquerading as "Peace Officers", but willing to twist and plant evidence.

A perfect example of why we should change the laws of OUR land, so as to stop paying to be harassed for medical cannabis.
 

Grow Goddess

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I agree Fadedawg:

I stick to the law of my state. When continuously asked by the same person, I always tell them the same. I do not sell oil. I am no longer making oil, I don't have the materials to provide it, I cannot provide to you if you are not registered as my patient, etc. I would always point them to my blogs and express that it is easy to make for themselves. Eventually they go away. I received much of this, especially after I started a thread at another site which has exceeded 200,000 views.

I even did the same with my 2nd cancer patient. I treated him for free. It is a very intense experience going through large sums of oil like that. Just one example: it makes me so forgetful that I even forget if I just took a dose. "did I take my dose"? "I think I did, but maybe I didn't". I just can't remember. Just for my own safety I made the patient sign a hold harmless agreement. Basically so he could not sue me and the patient is taking full responsibility for his choice.

I admit, some of the reason I would only provide the oil for free to the cancer patient is because it would be more difficult to be prosecuted for having a concentrate and providing it to a patient for free. At least if it went to jury trial.

I wanted to have the opportunity to treat at least 3 cancer patients. Sadly, soon after I was done working with my 2nd patient, that dang COA ruling came up deeming concentrates illegal. Then nightmare stories were popping up all across the country. Some folks getting life sentences for having a couple of canna cookies. So I just don't do it publicly anymore. I do keep my blogs updated though.

They (LEO & government), just keep taking more. They are sucking all of the life out of me. It was awesome running a compassion club and being able to give away free meds. After the no dispensaries ruling and no patient to patient transfers, that ruined it for the club legally speaking. It was free and as long as they had a valid medical marijuana patient card, they could get the sample.

15 years and counting. Playing it safe and my paranoia has kept me out of trouble.
 

Grow Goddess

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Sorry to hear that there are people trying to set you up. I am wondering if that is why you did not respond to my email, or did you not receive it. Perhaps it went into your spam? Again, I would like to get to know you better. While we are starting up in soCal, pending our success, we intend to expand into other states, including CO. I understand that CO is where your heart is, so perhaps there may be something there where you help on a consulting level in exchange for a position when and if we are able to get into CO someday. Sort of putting the cart before the horse but I believe in what we are doing and I believe it will be successful, so therefore, its hard not to believe we will be in other states someday.
I just read your e-mail. I don't always have a chance to check my e-mails everyday, especially during the winter. It is very busy here during the winter. Longer rides to work and back home due to the weather conditions, etc. Then there is the grow among other things.

I will send back a reply to the e-mail. I am more than happy to share information.
 

Grow Goddess

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What about the O.G Thai Power Iso 2?
Similar to the oil iso machines from the 70's?

Just my opinion, at least with those old ones, they over cook the oil to where it loses much of the medicinal properties. Not worth putting your best buds in one of those.

I would rather use a $12 rice cooker and a $10 coffee mug warmer.

Just my opinion.

Actually, I would highly recommend a glass baking dish, a fan, and a vial for storage. Solvent: 200 proof KleenXtract. When it gets to an oil state, add 192 proof grain alcohol, keep it somewhat liquid, transfer to the storage vial, store for 100 days. Make sure the vial is sitting in a glass in case the CO2 build up causes leakage. It may be best to burp the vial daily, not sure yet. I don't know of anything else that compares, at least for ingesting. Not sure any "machine" could compare.

If you have a very dry atmosphere like I do right now, a fan will not be needed. Nor would electricity be needed. (Wood stove heating).

For medibles, I don't think any other extracting method would compare efficiency and medicinally speaking.

Just my 2cents.
 
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