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VIANARCHRIS

VIANARCHRIS

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JungleStrikeGuy said:
So basically, it's the federal govt's 'newspaper', in which from time to time 'regulations' are proposed. So basically it's something that should absolutely not be used in the way it's being used, but c'est la vie.

Under this section : http://www.gazette.gc.ca/archives/part1-archives-partie1-eng.html

You will see 'proposed' regulations, ala the MMAR / MMPR. These 'regulations' will never go outside of HC / the PMO, will never go to a commons committee or vote.

If the MMAR had been in legislation, the MMPR would have been even more of a disaster (but maybe better for us).
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gotcha, ty. SO basically it's a way for minister's and bureaucrats to inflict their ideals on the populace without having to deal with that annoying democracy stuff.
 
jafro daweedhound

jafro daweedhound

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VIANARCHRIS said:
gotcha, ty. SO basically it's a way for minister's and bureaucrats to inflict their ideals on the populace without having to deal with that annoying democracy stuff.
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Well then, lets get the populace to inflict our ideals on the bureaucrats and ministers, even if it means annoying them. I have been emailing HC. Justin will get one tomorrow. We have a real Nazi conservative (is that a double negative ?) for our MP here, so writing him is a waist of time.

All kidding aside, there have been some very helpful and informative posts here today.
Thanks everyone
 
WHATFG

WHATFG

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Gquebed said:
The Gazette is the official house of commons newspaper...

But if i recall... the the program was started by HC on compassionate grounds to give end of lifers some relief and allowed them to use weed. There were only a few hundred. It was never legislated. It was simply a directive... and it expanded to include other chronic illnesses and it all got out of control...
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I thought we had a medical exemption from the CDSA? legal is legal.
 
Gquebed

Gquebed

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WHATFG said:
I thought we had a medical exemption from the CDSA? legal is legal.
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True. We have an exemption. I can't recall exactly who or how that exemption came into being, but I do know that it was all rather informal... Maybe directive isn't the right word, but I know there is no "law" that exempts us.

And that turned out to be a blessing. When the exemption was first allowed it was for end-of-lifers only. I had a friend who was one of the very first bunch to get the exemption. He'd had three rounds of chemo and, well... it was all over for him except the waiting. Those with HIV got the exemption...

Anyway, because the exemption was so informal its restrictions were never clearly spelled out and they gradually loosened through the years to include many other things like arthritis, glaucoma, etc...

Had it been written into law, it probably never would've morphed into what it became....
 
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Gquebed

Gquebed

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VIANARCHRIS said:
That's not entirely true. Our constitution and charter are the deciding laws this country are governed by and the courts have said we are exempted. While no formal law dealing with mmj exists, section 7 trumps any laws they have against us. imo
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True... and the fact that precedent has been set... thats a form of law. Tort law i believe. Cant put the genie back in the bottle...
 
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Gmack420

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Gquebed said:
True... and the fact that precedent has been set... thats a form of law. Tort law i believe. Cant put the genie back in the bottle...
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Scoc has said denying Canadians the right to use mj as a medical treatment is a violation of our charter rights. No law can be made to violate those rights. Just because hc wants to interprete that rueling however they see fit doesn't make their decisions law or in anyway legal. The Scoc has never said what medical conditions are included or excluded. The Scoc has never said we need doctors approval either. If you have a medical need then that's all that really counts in court.
 
Gquebed

Gquebed

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Gmack420 said:
Scoc has said denying Canadians the right to use mj as a medical treatment is a violation of our charter rights. No law can be made to violate those rights. Just because hc wants to interprete that rueling however they see fit doesn't make their decisions law or in anyway legal. The Scoc has never said what medical conditions are included or excluded. The Scoc has never said we need doctors approval either. If you have a medical need then that's all that really counts in court.
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Im not sure what youre getting at, but i think we agree...
 
jafro daweedhound

jafro daweedhound

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Gmack420 said:
The Scoc has never said we need doctors approval either. If you have a medical need then that's all that really counts in court.
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Then would "prevention " not be included ??? I have read that there has never been a case of elzymers (so much for spelling!) reported among people who use cannabis daily. Preventative medicating would just open the gates to everyone - doctors not required...HC would be standing there with their pants down around their ankles wondering what happened. Please don't picture that...
 
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