Little chilli patch pest issue

VincenzioVonHook

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Hey guys. I've got a few chilli plants going. Haven't had much issue with pests yet, but one chilli plant had a bunch of eggs under a leaf, and a fucking thousand of these little black things came out and decimated the leaves within a day.
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They are going on seven weeks I'd say, and just popping their first flowers/Peppers..

They are only attacking one pepper plant, and I found a bunch on the tomato this morn. I spray with Neem and pyrethrum every two days, with a bit of dish soap so I'm hoping I can keep it at bay. Can anyone chime in as to what this is on the tomato leaf?
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Full of eggs. Here's the effected pepper plant as well.
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There's also minor damage on another one of the larger plants as you can see.
 
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VincenzioVonHook

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The leaf damage looks like spider mite damage and that brown/tan stuff looks like moth eggs
A thousand tiny, almost invisable black things came out of the eggs from what I remember. We do have a plethora of moths in our yard tho. walk through the grass and they are everywhere.
 

VincenzioVonHook

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Treat them with neem or safer soap to kill them
I've been hammering them with neem and dish soap for about two weeks now, every second day, but by the next day I'm chopping leaves off the tomato plant due to those eggs.

I've never seen this before, luckily last year's outdoor weed run didn't have any issues. It looks like we are in for a pest filled summer with the moisture around.
 

calvin.m16

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You're welcome.
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I spray this shiyyat 1 time in veg and the plants never get bugs. Spinosad will fail testing if sprayed past 30 days before harvest. Obviously looks like them aren't weeed plantz though so shouldn't matter!

Spray bottoms of leaves then tops enough time that they dry out before direct sunlight hits them. You wanna spray the bottoms first cause most bugs hangout there and if you spray the tops first, the leaves droop then it's harder to get the bottoms..

Good luck!
 

calvin.m16

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I'll give it a go. The almost daily Neem and soap treatment is not doing shit.
Yeah you're doing more harm than good with that treatment. I would hit them with that Spinosad and you won't see another bug for a long time. To us it's just a protein to the bug it explodes its guts inside out within 24 hours. It's not an instant kill for some pests but within 24 hours you shouldn't be able to find a soul alive if you cover the plants completely.
 

VincenzioVonHook

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Looks like multiple pests. I'm no expert, but it looks like thrips and mites. And something else, because I don't know what those black things are.
Same.. I saw a few mites and some translucent thrips, but I wasn't sure what those black things were.

They come from what looks like moth eggs, but with no covering. Exactly the same as the moth eggs actually, but exposed.
 

calvin.m16

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Same.. I saw a few mites and some translucent thrips, but I wasn't sure what those black things were.

They come from what looks like moth eggs, but with no covering. Exactly the same as the moth eggs actually, but exposed.
Black things are poop from most likely caterpillars.
 

calvin.m16

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That last pics looks kinda like an adult thrip and a few of his minions, lol.

Honestly I don't know what they are though, lol.

Those other black things look different though than that critter.
Thrips/Aphids are pretty similar in the damage they do and they look very alike sometimes, one big difference is thrips will be more transparent and yellow/orange colored thin where aphids will be more chonky, round & dark brown/black.
 

PadawanWarrior

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Oh shit. Maybe those black spots are old dead mature thrips. You've been spraying with neem. Just a though. Like I said before though, I'm no master.
 

PadawanWarrior

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Thrips/Aphids are pretty similar in the damage they do and they look very alike sometimes, one big difference is thrips will be more transparent and yellow/orange colored thin where aphids will be more chonky, round & dark brown/black.
Ya, I thought I saw some sighs of aphids in one of those. Maybe those black things are mature aphids. I don't know.
 
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