Led vs HPS growing

V256.420

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Yes, I do. You want to make this a bick dick contest? I'll send you a pick of mine so you wont get too jelly :blsmoke:

This was directed @jarvild

He has big dick hemp cola and tiny penis :clap:
 
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Kerovan

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So would you say you have to use the same amount of watts from LED to yield the same from HPS? Or would you be able to run the LED @ 500 watts and get the same results as a 600 watt HPS?

Would LED save you $$$?
Yes, LED does use a little less power than the hid for the same thing, so it does save a small amount of money.
 

DukeFluke

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Get a life and learn how to grow, troll kids can't even handle nutrition right and are butthurt because the old-schoolers harvest more under HPS than their fancy 1500 bucks a piece cold light that'll save them 10 bucks a months on the e-bill. Ive seen the pics, not only here, some got even banned at another place for repeat infantile trolling...

LMAO :blsmoke: :wall: :P
Hey buddy I was replying to someone who said LED has more evolving to do to catch up.

That might have been the case a few years ago but it's not now.

A big part of the picture that people are missing with LED is the situations you can yield an easy gram per watt where it would be a nightmare with HID. In open rooms, yes, any light is easy and then it's a matter of just maintaining your environment. I've grown in open rooms and honestly I miss those days... it's such an easy thing to do.

but try growing in a loft with zero headroom and knowing that once your plant goes above a certain height, it's curtains for your yield, and then grab a gpw from plants which would have given you popcorn in the same environment, and you'll have the same appreciation for the technology that I do
 

Kerovan

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A big part of the picture that people are missing with LED is the situations you can yield an easy gram per watt where it would be a nightmare with HID.
Sorry, but I disagree. I have a 4x4 tent with a 400W hid. I veg under MH and then flower under HPS. 400W... My last yield from that tent was 479 grams dry with 4 plants. Seems that is a tad over 1 gram per watt. It's never been under 400 grams.
 

radiant Rudy

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I guess These aren't 18 ounce dry either
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Believe what you want but I laugh all the way to the bank.
Is that a diy rig? In my small garden weight/gram factors dont concern me. My 2x4 space uses a diy rig that is dimmable 625w. My heaviest runs are 3 x 10z plants in 7 gal pots. I'm running vero29, 7 gen with a few cxb 3590 around the edges.

Like a henhouse crammed with stoner bro boobs the HID cult have been cackling about their dinosaur bulbs for so long they are ridiculed and dismissed as irrelevant.
Learning IS changing


Yes, I do. You want to make this a bick dick contest? I'll send you a pick of mine so you wont get too jelly :blsmoke:

This was directed @jarvild

He has big dick hemp cola and tiny penis :clap:
Crotch inspector and HID stoner bro boob cackling about dinosaur bulb, ridiculed and dismissed as irrelevant.
 
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DukeFluke

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Sorry, but I disagree. I have a 4x4 tent with a 400W hid. I veg under MH and then flower under HPS. 400W... My last yield from that tent was 479 grams dry with 4 plants. Seems that is a tad over 1 gram per watt. It's never been under 400 grams.
That's not what I was saying. It's not a nightmare to grown in a tent. You've got a nice little enclosed environment, reflective walls and good headroom

I'm saying specifically in situations where it's horrible to use hoods and hot bulbs, like a low ceiling of an attic space. In that situation led is a lifesaver
 

KK26

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Sorry, but I disagree. I have a 4x4 tent with a 400W hid. I veg under MH and then flower under HPS. 400W... My last yield from that tent was 479 grams dry with 4 plants. Seems that is a tad over 1 gram per watt. It's never been under 400 grams.
I agree with this.

Same here but with a 600 HPS.

I pull over 600 grams most grows.

1gpw of super dense flowers is fine by me. I grow for myself only and also an elderly couple who have cancer whom I give 2 oz free every 6 weeks or so. Going to have to start thinking about the law because since I only grow for myself and the elderly couple, I now have countless jars of cured weed which could leave me with a bit of explaining to do. Seriously, no dick waving, I have much more weed than I could ever smoke and I'm still growing but I do break for a couple of months at Christmas because its too cold for my liking in an outhouse without any additional heating.

Over 20oz most grow and nothing special regarding feed and what not. Only use just 1 bottle of nutes which is Buddhas Tree Organicus all in one grow and bloom at 1ml per ltr.

These are my last plants for this year currently at 4 weeks and 3 days since 12/12. They have another 5 or so weeks to go and I can tell easily at this stage there will be over 20oz or round about 600 grams if they continue this way.

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KK26

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Awesome dude.. for the elder couple too! Do you alter the distance to the canopy a lot during the grow??
I had 4" remaining and only earlier today I used that extra because I have 1 plant, front right, that has some leaves folding inwards which is heat stress. I'm hoping the extra few inches solves this but if not no worries and I'll start some ties going to move so buds which are showing the stress.

There is no more height to play with but with a few tweaks it'll be alright. Usually try to get my HPS as close to the canopy as I dare and I do think the extra 4" adjustment will solve it. I've found I can get it as close as say 8" from the tops and I'm always pleased come harvest time.
 

hillbill

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Running mostly white and some white/red LEDs, COBs Boards for 7 years plus an old 250 4000k Philips CMH again since March. LED yields on a watt to watt basis are substantially greater than HPS at my house.
 

DaFreak

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The simple fact that it doesn't matter what lights I grow with, Yield is grower skill, period. If your jealous, come learn to grow with me.
Yes and no, I've been growing for 20 years and my gpw is better with quality LED. My initial impression and thoughts is that you just have better light coverage with LEDs because the light is coming from many angles instead of just one. Now I grow in tents, so I am comparing single bulbs to single LED lights. If you are growing with 6 HPS lights then you obviously achieve the same thing, but grows with a single light I think the LED is going to have an advantage. But yeah, LEDs don't turn a shitty grower into a growing god.
 

DukeFluke

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I increased my yields using LED with less wattage than HPS. But now it's starting to get ti the cold season, so I need to decide how to deal with it. I may switch back to HPS for a cycle, or just supplement the LED lights with a small amount of HPS or maybe CMH.
I read a lot of post which say this, and it makes me question if people are doing the right thing using the light to heat their environments and not floor heating to warm up the roots.

What are your temps in the winter season and what changes do you make from summer to deal with it?
 
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