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Exactly....

superstoner1 said:

I use city tap water and grow in Aero and dwc. And before you embarrass yourself further please look up the definition of Cotyledon. Those funny little first leaves that are on your plants.

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lol, let me guess, your tap water comes out of the faucet with zero dissolved solids, right? 0ppm? You're feeding and not evening realizing it because your definition of "feeding" is adding nutes. My tap water comes out around 250ppm.

The food stores are in the cotyledons.

Canna Connoiseur said:

The food stores are in the cotyledons.

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Ya, for 3-5 days, not 2-3 weeks like others have told me. If you grow in soil, if you use tap water, blah blah, you don't need to feed. If you use distilled water or very low tds water in hydro, you NEED to FEED.

My tap is 110, and I know exactly what is in it from the annual report I get. But you have to know that with small seedlings like yours the cotyledons are still full and have plenty of food. When they need food you will see a slight yellowing of new growth and then feed them. If yours have been dying there have to be other issues or lack of attention.

superstoner1 said:

My tap is 110, and I know exactly what is in it from the annual report I get. But you have to know that with small seedlings like yours the cotyledons are still full and have plenty of food. When they need food you will see a slight yellowing of new growth and then feed them. If yours have been dying there have to be other issues or lack of attention.

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So just a coincidence that since I started feeding them they've started to thrive? I'm sure that since this guy, http://forum.grasscity.com/hydropon...al-sensi-star-6-sq-ft-scrog-single-plant.html
fed his seedling (From the advice of a pro grower) and it grew exceptionally well it was just a coincidence? I'm sure that the advice I got over here - https://www.autoflower.net/forums/f44/seedlings-stop-growing-every-time-16608.html
from C.E2

You need atleast 0.6 ec (300ppm hanna, 420 ppm truncheon) in there of nutes.
Distilled water with soilless/hydro medium is a nono. Ph-ing doesnt make any sense, as pH of RO/distilled is too unstable, due to huge shifts in pH as moisture of medium changes.

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is completely wrong and misguided right? I suppose that since my plants are growing well now, that is also just a coincidence, right?

You're telling me NOT to feed but you're feeding with tap water. Brilliant advice. Two different worlds here. When I followed advice from guys you like, I went nowhere. I wonder why?

Maybe you'll read what I'm saying now. The seedlings do well up till about 4-5 days, then they STOP GROWING. People like you say "Don't feed for 2-3 weeks", that's my issue here. You can't go for 2-3 weeks when using low tds or distilled water in hydro without adding nutrients to some level. You go try and it prove me wrong. See how long a seedling lives for you with straight distilled water in hydro. I've been down this road for a while now.

ok seriously.....this guy is fine he isnt feeding way too early for hydro and we all know seedlings can store a small amount of sustinance so lets just get off it! and whoever said distilled water is a no no in soiless mixes is straight RETARDED!!! dont go around spreading your stupidity distilled water is exactly what you want!! keep in mind you may not think im right because you dont know what soiless means...soiless includes mixes like fox farm which are not a soil but are "dirt"

Kermit, I think what that guy was referring to with "soilless" is rockwool or possibly rapid rooters... Although, they are made from compost. He's absolutely right about pH fluctuations with distilled water. Distilled water is what you want to ADD additives to, but not using it unaltered unless you're flushing - as I was using it pure, only attempting to pH it, and not adding nutrients to it. Wondering why after a couple days in the seedlings would mysteriously stop growing. Well, I have clean pH'd distilled water in there, the temp and humidity is in range and I have plenty light and they grow up to day 5 then stop, mmmm...?
So then I change my ways, come on here and ask about a the leaves bending down, not curling, not turning crisp/yellowing or dying, they're green and healthy and growing daily and I end up getting a bunch of smartass know-it-all's telling me I'm doing it wrong with the nutrients, lol. Laugh out loud!!! I'm sure that guy who pulled 28oz out of a 3x2 scrog in 30/55 days was doing it wrong by feeding his seedling after the 3rd day and even jacking it up to 900ppm after the 8th day when he moved it to the bubbler. LOL. Any more advice about feeding a seedling? Or are you going to say that you aren't feeding it with your tap water? LOL. get the hell out of here. You're seedlings will develop nice healthy teeth with the fluoride. http://water.epa.gov/drink/contaminants/index.cfm

Honestly, I don't give a rats ass what these guys say about not feeding. They can use a bullhorn to proclaim this misinformation from atop the highest mountain and I'd still keep feeding, because regardless what they say, they're feeding their seedlings with what is in their tap water. It's pure ignorance.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distilled_water
"Some people use distilled water for household aquariums because it lacks the chemicals found in tap water supplies. It is important to supplement distilled water when using it for fishkeeping; it is too pure to sustain proper chemistry to support an aquarium ecosystem."
"Drinking water sources available to North Americans may contain high levels of Ca[SUP]2+[/SUP], Mg[SUP]2+[/SUP], and Na[SUP]+[/SUP] and may provide clinically important portions of the recommended dietary intake of these minerals. Physicians should encourage patients to check the mineral content of their drinking water, whether tap or bottled, and choose water most appropriate for their needs."



Enjoy!

i think alot of people have a taboo kinda thing with certain aspects of growing pot...i see alot of people always worried about over feeding and ive found that generally hard to do same with ph in dirt which is almost never your problem but everyone jumps right to that...even if they are fully right and you didnt need to do that their is more than one way to skin a cat isnt that what they say?! i think too many people are worried about screwing up with the "hard things" they dont realize those are the easy parts since cannabis is a pretty forgiving plant and they forget to keep on the basics which is where most problems wind up and really they complicate the whole matter of growing pot

Kermit, I agree. I've always seemed to have the most problems with a lack of nutrients.

Anyway, back to the original post... I think that the leaf curling may be due to having the rapid rooter be too wet for too long, so I've started to water less but slightly more frequently. We'll see.