Kratom ?

Discussion in 'Hallucinatory Substances' started by W N L, Apr 25, 2011.

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    W N L

    W N L Active Member

    This shit work? Anyone try? Other legal trips that work?

    or the pill form
    Xscape

    Just wondering...

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    NP88

    NP88 Active Member

    yes, it does work. It needs to be consumed on an empty stomach in order to be effective.
     
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    Swag

    Swag Well-Known Member

    Not necessarily I've eatten it on a full stomach and the effects were less prominent but slightly longer lasting, imo. Though the effects will have a faster onset if consumed on an empty stomach. If your a novice/low tolerance to opiates ingesting it on an empty stomach may not be the best idea as it may create some powerful and possible debilitating nausea in the same way mu-opioids do if dosed too high. Don't buy it in any sort of pill form or extract as it is usually less economical than just buying the powdered leaf. The active chemicals theorized in kratom are mitragynine and 7-hydroxymitragynine which I had read effect the Delta-opioid receptors more than the Mu but wikipedia now says other wise (its wikipedia so take this information with a *pinch* of salt). It produces standard natural and synthetic opiate (i.e. oxycodone, morphine, hydrocodone, coedine, ect.) effects with a little less euphoria and more focus on the physical aspect of the high imo. Definitely something worth trying while it is still legally available I believe . Many people enjoy every aspect of it other than having to consume the nasty texture and taste of the powder, though that can easily be masked by gulping it down with an acidic drink such as OJ or Sunny D. Oh and you may not feel the effects of it the first couple of times after ingesting it as it is a structurally complicated chemical (similar to yohimbe alkaloids and tryptamines but acts on the opioid receptors) so your body may have trouble deciding exactly where to transmit its actions.
     
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    W N L

    W N L Active Member

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    Karmapuff

    Karmapuff Well-Known Member

    I enjoy the powdered bali.

    Kratom does work :) It's a very surprising legal "high" You feel warm and fuzzy. Really sedative and just productive and content about everything.
    It makes me feel kinda disassociated with myself though :P

    It's definitely worth your time and money.
     
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    NP88

    NP88 Active Member

    You're right swag. I ingested kratom 2 or so hours before bedtime, on a full stomach, and I woke up feeling the effects 5 hours later, although it was a mild effect. Stay away from very fine powder. I see no advantages to fine powder at all. It is subject to static, which makes it more difficult to put in gel caps, and its very hard to swallow compared to normal powdered leaf
     
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    shsn

    shsn Member

    It's alright, it is pretty cheap if you buy it in bulk. Kratom is expensive(compared to most other plant materials), and it may take a lot for you to feel it.
     
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    ANC

    ANC Well-Known Member

    try to get crumbled leaf rather than powder, the powde isa bitch to get down (or mix into drinks).

    Start off with about 3 to 4 gram, then base your next dose on that and adjust. Getting the dose too high does bring hectic motion sickness, you'll be fine as long as you don't move, when it happens.
     
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    Unnk

    Unnk Well-Known Member

    hey anc i just ordered another round of kratom you ever try any of the sumatra white or red vein?
     
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    ANC

    ANC Well-Known Member

    Lol I don't even know what types I have left, we have a local group that purchases our entheos in bulk.
    Quality is such that I don't even ask anymore, I just take my share.
     
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    Unnk

    Unnk Well-Known Member

    was just wondering as there all supossed to have varied effects
     
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    ANC

    ANC Well-Known Member

    That they do, and then another set of effects when you mix strains.

    I mostly take it as a medicine for pain relief, so I try not to use it very often, I must have like 2 ounces or so at the moment.
     
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    ANC

    ANC Well-Known Member

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    Thedillestpickle

    Thedillestpickle Well-Known Member

    Just ordered some online, I got some crushed leaf with a mix of 5x extract in it, and a 30x extract powder... I hadnt read about all this advice to get the crushed leaf.... ahh well. but it does seem alot cheaper if the 30x extract is trully 30x stronger than I paid about 1/4 the price that i would for that much if it were crushed leaf.

    I just hope if it does make me nauseous it will be like the nausea I have had while im on opiates... where you calmly walk over to the toilet. spew out whatevers in your stomach, and then smile and think "that was nice" :) hehehe
     
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    ANC

    ANC Well-Known Member

    never made me throw up, but it can give quite some queeziness on the stomach if you take too much. You'll fuck up once, and you won't want a repeat.
     
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    Unnk

    Unnk Well-Known Member

    i find if you take some ginger tea with high doses it reallly does make a big diff
     
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    hppy2balive

    hppy2balive Active Member

    u mean its helps with the runs? sign me up, bud brownies have tore me up!
     
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    Unnk

    Unnk Well-Known Member

    lol it will certainly give you more fiber in your diet if your toss and washing

    which means mroe solid excreet lol
     
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    NP88

    NP88 Active Member

    Also, all opioids bind with opiate receptors in the bowel, which slows down gastric motility, and can treat minor diarrhea.
     
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    hppy2balive

    hppy2balive Active Member

    yea well now after all this kratom im going to have a bowel obstruction, hahaha thanks guys
     

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