Katrina aftermath

medicineman

New Member
Did anyone watch Comedy relief? heres my question! why are the Insurance companies refusing to pay the claims. Does the Federal Govt. need to help those people. It's been over a year and the costal areas of Lousiana , Mississippi, and Alabama are still not rebuilt or even started. Since when has our great nation failed to help in such a disaster. The Insurance companies use a claims company that is favorable to them (GO Figure) and either no claim is honored or a greatly reduced one. The claims adjusters claim the bulk of the damage came from the storm surge while independent engineers say it was the wind. Most of the homeowners didn't have flood insurance as it was too expensive. Should the Federal government (You and I) help these people rebuild, or should we let them find other places to live. A weeks worth of Iraq would most likely rebuild the whole area, should we continue destroying Iraq or rebuild Katrina victims residences, that is the question?
 

Widow Maker

Well-Known Member
I wish they would rebuild already. I know they are working on it. I am sorry but I am ready for all these robbing and murdering Nola's to go back home.
 

Dankdude

Well-Known Member
Crime and Murder has gone up in just about every place that NOLA refugees have settled in.
If that is the kind of people coming out of New Orleans, then they need to be jailed and the town destroyed and never to be rebuilt again. The assholes need to know that they don't run shit.
 

ViRedd

New Member
Ummm ... how about just insisting upon people taking personal responsibility for their lot in life? If a fool builds a home in the middle of California's chapperall, and the home is subsequently destroyed by brush fires, who's responsible? If fools build homes along the coast in Malibu, hanging over the sand, who's responsible for the clean up after a storm surge carries the homes out to sea? Same thing for Katrina. Just the fact that the federal government has a cumbersome bureau called FEMA, doesn't mean that taxpayers from everywhere are responsible for replacing the homes of fools who built their homes below sea level in the hopes that antique levees will hold back the sea.

Vi
 

medicineman

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Ummm ... how about just insisting upon people taking personal responsibility for their lot in life? If a fool builds a home in the middle of California's chapperall, and the home is subsequently destroyed by brush fires, who's responsible? If fools build homes along the coast in Malibu, hanging over the sand, who's responsible for the clean up after a storm surge carries the homes out to sea? Same thing for Katrina. Just the fact that the federal government has a cumbersome bureau called FEMA, doesn't mean that taxpayers from everywhere are responsible for replacing the homes of fools who built their homes below sea level in the hopes that antique levees will hold back the sea.

Vi
Aren 't you glad you're not a fool, building your house on the top of the San Andreas fault. When the big one comes I'll bet you holler the loudest, whoooeee, Never saw that one comin! Help me, help me!
 

ViRedd

New Member
Aren 't you glad you're not a fool, building your house on the top of the San Andreas fault. When the big one comes I'll bet you holler the loudest, whoooeee, Never saw that one comin! Help me, help me!

Well, first of all ... I am not on top of the San Andreas fault. If I were, I wouldn't be able to get earthquake insurance and I would know that I was taking the risk of losing my home. If that happend, I surely wouldn't expect YOU, who lives in the next state over, to cover my losses.

Vi
 

medicineman

New Member
Aren 't you glad you're not a fool, building your house on the top of the San Andreas fault. When the big one comes I'll bet you holler the loudest, whoooeee, Never saw that one comin! Help me, help me!

Well, first of all ... I am not on top of the San Andreas fault. If I were, I wouldn't be able to get earthquake insurance and I would know that I was taking the risk of losing my home. If that happend, I surely wouldn't expect YOU, who lives in the next state over, to cover my losses.

Vi
Ya sure! Ya sure! Why do firefighters from all states come to Ca. and fight your states fires? When the state can no longer sustain the responsibility of the disaster, they call in FEMA. This is The United, I emphasize, United States Of America, we're all in this together, get used to it or as I've suggested find another place to live. This is not the state of ViRedd, Thank God!
 

mogie

Well-Known Member
Okay this is just my opinion but why does anyone want to rebuild there? The place is below sea level.

I feel that our country's response to what happened is horrible. FEMA is supposed to be there to respond and respond fast.

If I build my house next to a river that is known to flood then why should people be surprized when it floods? If you build below sea level why should you be surprized when the sea reclaims its land?
 

ljjr

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you know, i thought this was one of the coolest sites, and i actually improved on a few things after reading a few posts, its a shame what some of you guys have said about people that were affected by a NATURAL disaster, there is crime everywhere, and how sure are you that the crime rate increase was caused by katrina victims?, sounds like something else is bothering you hmmm?, well i am from louisiana not New orleans but i do have friends there and they are NOT criminals, well if you wanna call being a grower a criminal then we all are, if not then why are we all here? anyway i was affected by hurricane rita and i have relocated since, and what i just read was disrespectful and uncalled for, hopefully the mods will do something about it, anyway its toke time, reading those "certain" posts blew my high.
 

medicineman

New Member
Okay this is just my opinion but why does anyone want to rebuild there? The place is below sea level.

I feel that our country's response to what happened is horrible. FEMA is supposed to be there to respond and respond fast.

If I build my house next to a river that is known to flood then why should people be surprized when it floods? If you build below sea level why should you be surprized when the sea reclaims its land?
The government knew about the levies way before Katrina and did nothing about them. Do you think maybe they were hoping for Katrina so thery could get rid of all the poor black people in N.O. and then bring in developers to rebuild the city for white folks? Just a theory, and you wouldn't have a hard time selling it to Black folks!
 

ViRedd

New Member
Yes, Med ... it was Bush and Cheney who undermined the levies, but not so developers could rebuild the city. Nope, they did it for oil drilling and to increase the bottom line for Halliburton. *lol*

ljjr ...

Hey, Bro ... this IS a cool site and a great place to learn. The political forum gets a little rough at times though. Try not to get offended ... your point is well taken, I'm sure. :)

Vi
 

medicineman

New Member
Yes, Med ... it was Bush and Cheney who undermined the levies, but not so developers could rebuild the city. Nope, they did it for oil drilling and to increase the bottom line for Halliburton. *

Vi
You are joking I assume, But I believe Haliburton did get some no-bid contracts out of Katrina. It certainly wouldn't surprise me, after all, they own the billions being squandered in Iraq! Do You think this is just coincidence, or does the Dick and Rummy have a hand in these things. BTW. Did you know that Rummy is the major stockholder in the Bird Flue Vaccine company, and you think we're not going to have an epedemic!! If it doesn't come naturally they will import it. Call me when you are buying a dose of the vaccine for 100.00 to stay alive, or just call me a conspiracy nut!
 

ljjr

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well, Med what your saying is definitely true i wouldn't build next to a river that may flood knowing that the city is below sea level, but please understand there are people that have lived there all there lives, i mean generations of people and nothing like this has occured, well not to that magnitude, a lot of people were subject to the cry-wolf syndrome meaning every year the media hypes up a tropical storm or thunderstorm saying that it is going to destroy the city and it never does, i mean this has been happening for yearsss so a lot of people just took the mentality of "hear we go again" and this time it really happened!. as for me i have no reason to return to louisiana except to visit a die hard relative or two that still remains back home, but for the most part all have gone. i lost almost everything i owned, but i still have the most important thing and thats my life and my smoke lol and i have almost recouped everything i lost and have met some great people along the way. anyway the ww has me rambling on, time to take care of the munchies..peace
 

Widow Maker

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you know, i thought this was one of the coolest sites, and i actually improved on a few things after reading a few posts, its a shame what some of you guys have said about people that were affected by a NATURAL disaster, there is crime everywhere, and how sure are you that the crime rate increase was caused by katrina victims?, sounds like something else is bothering you hmmm?, well i am from louisiana not New orleans but i do have friends there and they are NOT criminals, well if you wanna call being a grower a criminal then we all are, if not then why are we all here? anyway i was affected by hurricane rita and i have relocated since, and what i just read was disrespectful and uncalled for, hopefully the mods will do something about it, anyway its toke time, reading those "certain" posts blew my high.
Its sad what happened. And I am not dogging all the nolas. Just the murdering and robbing ones. Wjich is a lot of them. What I say is from personal experiance. My friend got robbed at gun point a few months ago by a nola. The murder rate in my city went up like 10 fold since the nolas came. Its all over the news. They released all the prisoners. Murderers, rapist, and whatever. Another friend of mine (older lady) volenteered at the dome when they shipped them in. Her and another lady were struggling to get beds laid out and she asked a group of young men if they could help her with moving them and they said they didnt have to do anything that they just lost everything and dont have to do shit. They seem to be very rude and expect the rest of the country to take care of them. Living off fema and not even trying to get their lives back together. Like getting a job. It wouldnt be an issue if they contributed to the community. But they dont. Sorry you dont see what I see. I bet you wouldnt want me coming in your neighborhood doing those kind of things and expecting YOU to take care of me.
 

Widow Maker

Well-Known Member
Yes, Med ... it was Bush and Cheney who undermined the levies, but not so developers could rebuild the city. Nope, they did it for oil drilling and to increase the bottom line for Halliburton. *lol*

ljjr ...

Hey, Bro ... this IS a cool site and a great place to learn. The political forum gets a little rough at times though. Try not to get offended ... your point is well taken, I'm sure. :)

Vi
No doubt. I try to stay out of the politics forum. Too much for me.
 

ljjr

Well-Known Member
well widow i agree that there is a lot of crime in new orleans, but isn't there a lot in all major u.s cities?, and true i wouldn't want to help anyone who didn't want to help themselves or behaved in such a bad manner, and trust me i have spent a LOT of time in N.O, i've never been robbed or know anyone who has..but trust me i don't doubt you for a minute cos there is a lot of crime there. as for what those guys said it was rude but haven't we all said or did some things that weren't nice when we were upset or hurt. losing everything you have can make you just a little salty, although misdirected anger is never good. but who's to say those guys don't have decent jobs and are being productive now, i don't know, do you? and living off fema ha what a joke i got assistance from fema and trust me you can't live off 2k. anyway i am not trying in anyway to provoke an argument and i am not offended by your posts you are just stateing what you believe to be is true, however i still believe there is some good in everyone and i give people the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise.
 

Widow Maker

Well-Known Member
I bet it would be different if the prisoners were not in the picture. I have been to NO and had one of the best times in my life. Its really sad that a few bad apples have ruined the bunch. Your right about the living off fema part. $2000? Maybe thats why there has been so many robberies. j/k. I think about how and what I would do in the same situation. I guess if I had a child to feed I could rob someone. Doesnt make it right but I can kinda understand where they are coming from. But the nola that robbed my friend was in a caddilac. I think he was robbing for greed and not to survive.
 

medicineman

New Member
I bet it would be different if the prisoners were not in the picture. I have been to NO and had one of the best times in my life. Its really sad that a few bad apples have ruined the bunch. Your right about the living off fema part. $2000? Maybe thats why there has been so many robberies. j/k. I think about how and what I would do in the same situation. I guess if I had a child to feed I could rob someone. Doesnt make it right but I can kinda understand where they are coming from. But the nola that robbed my friend was in a caddilac. I think he was robbing for greed and not to survive.
Aw widow, you're just itchin to get back in, come on back, we're waitin for ya!
 
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