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waterproof808

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I had one headbanger pheno that was super lanky with smaller buds and it was the worst of the bunch but still smoked nice. I would try to avoid the males with really skinny legs, but still have larger flower clusters. I dont think you can really go wrong picking a decent male, because everyone of the females I grew out was above average in terms of flavor and effect.


I just finished up my Chem D x Headbanger testers for Doc D Seeds and they all had very similar structure that leaned towards the headbanger but there was still some variation of the headbanger expressions in all of them. I had a very sour looking pheno and one that was more OG lookin flowers and one that looked OG but had that raunchy Chem D smell. Until you breed it to the higher filial generations I wouldnt concern myself too much with picking the perfect male right now
 
Shua1991

Shua1991

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waterproof808 said:
I had one headbanger pheno that was super lanky with smaller buds and it was the worst of the bunch but still smoked nice. I would try to avoid the males with really skinny legs, but still have larger flower clusters. I dont think you can really go wrong picking a decent male, because everyone of the females I grew out was above average in terms of flavor and effect.


I just finished up my Chem D x Headbanger testers for Doc D Seeds and they all had very similar structure that leaned towards the headbanger but there was still some variation of the headbanger expressions in all of them. I had a very sour looking pheno and one that was more OG lookin flowers and one that looked OG but had that raunchy Chem D smell. Until you breed it to the higher filial generations I wouldnt concern myself too much with picking the perfect male right now
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The first step is as important as the last, most traits you want to look for in a male would be

1 select for late sexing males, as fast maturing males are terrible breeding candidates and carry many hemp-like traits(usually autoflowering recessive)

2 hollow stems, better at carrying water/nutrients to flowers.

3 smoke the male flowers, if you get high, you have a potential keeper.

4. Stem rub/smell and smell of male flowers/ resin. Usually a good trait to make selections based off of prior knowledge of how females correlate(smell to pheno)

5. Most importantly, how they effect their offspring, what traits they can be seen to pass on.
 
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Kp sunshine

Kp sunshine

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waterproof808 said:
I had one headbanger pheno that was super lanky with smaller buds and it was the worst of the bunch but still smoked nice. I would try to avoid the males with really skinny legs, but still have larger flower clusters. I dont think you can really go wrong picking a decent male, because everyone of the females I grew out was above average in terms of flavor and effect.


I just finished up my Chem D x Headbanger testers for Doc D Seeds and they all had very similar structure that leaned towards the headbanger but there was still some variation of the headbanger expressions in all of them. I had a very sour looking pheno and one that was more OG lookin flowers and one that looked OG but had that raunchy Chem D smell. Until you breed it to the higher filial generations I wouldnt concern myself too much with picking the perfect male right now
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Thank you.
 
Kp sunshine

Kp sunshine

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Shua1991 said:
The first step is as important as the last, most traits you want to look for in a male would be

1 select for late sexing males, as fast maturing males are terrible breeding candidates and carry many hemp-like traits(usually autoflowering recessive)

2 hollow stems, better at carrying water/nutrients to flowers.

3 smoke the male flowers, if you get high, you have a potential keeper.

4. Stem rub/smell and smell of male flowers/ resin. Usually a good trait to make selections based off of prior knowledge of how females correlate(smell to pheno)

5. Most importantly, how they effect their offspring, what traits they can be seen to pass on.
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Yes I have one early flowering one that I'm tossing. Thanks for your help!
 
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Serverchris

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Shua1991 said:
The first step is as important as the last, most traits you want to look for in a male would be

1 select for late sexing males, as fast maturing males are terrible breeding candidates and carry many hemp-like traits(usually autoflowering recessive)

2 hollow stems, better at carrying water/nutrients to flowers.

3 smoke the male flowers, if you get high, you have a potential keeper.

4. Stem rub/smell and smell of male flowers/ resin. Usually a good trait to make selections based off of prior knowledge of how females correlate(smell to pheno)

5. Most importantly, how they effect their offspring, what traits they can be seen to pass on.
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I dont agree with the hollow stems, I think that is a trait of growing style and environment rather than genetics.
 
TWest65

TWest65

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Serverchris said:
I dont agree with the hollow stems, I think that is a trait of growing style and environment rather than genetics.
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I grow all my plants the same style, and all are in the same 4x6 grow room, so the environment is the same. Only 1 of 6 plants in my last grow had a hollow stem. So, based on empirical evidence, I would say there is more to it than just growing style and/or environment.
 
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Serverchris

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TWest65 said:
I grow all my plants the same style, and all are in the same 4x6 grow room, so the environment is the same. Only 1 of 6 plants in my last grow had a hollow stem. So, based on empirical evidence, I would say there is more to it than just growing style and/or environment.
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I wouldn't say it was empirical considering I've taken the same clone that showed hollow stems in hydro and grew it in los and got solid stems with just a pinhole.
 
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elephantSea

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I don't pay attention to hollow stems. I pay attention to trich production, nose, and how hard it kicks me in the fucking chest.

...and sometimes pretty colors :D

But I wanna play too. So i'll say neither of you are correct - it's not evidence at all. I'd just chalk it up to 'experience'. It's just 'In my experience, I've found that...'

Love youuu
 
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TWest65

TWest65

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Serverchris said:
I dont agree with the hollow stems, I think that is a trait of growing style and environment rather than genetics.
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6 different strains in a grow room. Environmental factors for all strains are the same. Growing style the same. The only variable is the genetics. Only 1 of the 6 had a hollow stem.

I am not saying environment and/or growing style can't be factors. I'm saying that they are not the only factors involved.
 
Kp sunshine

Kp sunshine

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waterproof808 said:
I had one headbanger pheno that was super lanky with smaller buds and it was the worst of the bunch but still smoked nice. I would try to avoid the males with really skinny legs, but still have larger flower clusters. I dont think you can really go wrong picking a decent male, because everyone of the females I grew out was above average in terms of flavor and effect.


I just finished up my Chem D x Headbanger testers for Doc D Seeds and they all had very similar structure that leaned towards the headbanger but there was still some variation of the headbanger expressions in all of them. I had a very sour looking pheno and one that was more OG lookin flowers and one that looked OG but had that raunchy Chem D smell. Until you breed it to the higher filial generations I wouldnt concern myself too much with picking the perfect male right now
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Are they finicky with the ph in flower? Light feeders?
 
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