Just did a soil test/seedling nute

amsterhamster

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My soil is a healthy PH 6.5, but shows VERY LOW for n, p, and k. My question is.. I know everyone here says you shouldn't fertilize seedlings (seedlings being plants focusing on root growth rather than obvious foliage growth) because they have enough npk to support themselves in this early stage of life.. but.. is this truly just the blind leading the blind? Sure it has worked for everyone.. but is there profound evidence that fertilizing at a 1/10 or 1/8 of recommended dose is not beneficial?

The reason I ask is, I recently did an experiment.. I had 4 seedlings, all 9 days old (from breaking soil) and they weren't showing an outstanding amount of root or foliage growth. Just typical growth. Wanting more, I applied Grow Big at 1/8 strength to 2 of the 4 plants.. and over the course of 3 days, monitoring them through a "peephole" to not disturb any of their environment, I was able to see a large difference.

Both seedlings without nutes showed the same, slow growth. The seedlings with the nutes grew both underground and above. There was no evident side effect of the nuted seedlings.

10 days later, my nuted seedlings stand nearly 1.5x as tall and wide. Still no side effects. This is when I decided to take a look at the root growth, which was 3x as much as the unnuted seedlings.

Unfortunately, for safety reasons, these plants are gone, but out of curiosity, I ask:

Where did the "don't ever give seedlings nutrients in this first 1 or 2 weeks" arise from?

Cliffs:
-Soil test: PH 6.5, very low n, p, and k
-Nuted 2 out of 4 seedlings with 1/8 strength FF grow big
-Nuted seedlings surpassed unnuted vastly
-13 days after nuting and no side effects
-Why do we all say no nutes for first couple of weeks?
 
[Cliffs at bottom]

My soil is a healthy PH 6.5, but shows VERY LOW for n, p, and k. My question is.. I know everyone here says you shouldn't fertilize seedlings (seedlings being plants focusing on root growth rather than obvious foliage growth) because they have enough npk to support themselves in this early stage of life.. but.. is this truly just the blind leading the blind? Sure it has worked for everyone.. but is there profound evidence that fertilizing at a 1/10 or 1/8 of recommended dose is not beneficial?

The reason I ask is, I recently did an experiment.. I had 4 seedlings, all 9 days old (from breaking soil) and they weren't showing an outstanding amount of root or foliage growth. Just typical growth. Wanting more, I applied Grow Big at 1/8 strength to 2 of the 4 plants.. and over the course of 3 days, monitoring them through a "peephole" to not disturb any of their environment, I was able to see a large difference.

Both seedlings without nutes showed the same, slow growth. The seedlings with the nutes grew both underground and above. There was no evident side effect of the nuted seedlings.

10 days later, my nuted seedlings stand nearly 1.5x as tall and wide. Still no side effects. This is when I decided to take a look at the root growth, which was 3x as much as the unnuted seedlings.

Unfortunately, for safety reasons, these plants are gone, but out of curiosity, I ask:

Where did the "don't ever give seedlings nutrients in this first 1 or 2 weeks" arise from?

Cliffs:
-Soil test: PH 6.5, very low n, p, and k
-Nuted 2 out of 4 seedlings with 1/8 strength FF grow big
-Nuted seedlings surpassed unnuted vastly
-13 days after nuting and no side effects
-Why do we all say no nutes for first couple of weeks?
Because its so easy to burn seedlings. Also i depends on the medium, this is targeted directly at soil, and quality soil at that. Alot of common cheaper soils like MG already have nutes also so a nute burn is easy. Light application in a young stage is beneficial, but its easier for noobs to start off with no nutes. I like Micronute additives in seed stage, since they have light amounts of NPK and can be used at full strength.
 
The reason everyone says dont feed seedlings is because its true. There is just way too much variation between strains and even between individual plants to ever work out a dose that will always be safe all the time. Just because you tried and and some plants grew better this time doesn't mean that next time it won't burn em. I gave the seedlings from my current grow a dose of 30% organic Big Bloom. 1 or 2 of the white widow and blue berry showed very slight burn and 30% of the WW and BB now show slight N overdose. Amost all the sadhu plants, on the other hand, got burnt with one almost burnt to death. If you're gonna grow the same strain over and over from clones you might as well keep experimenting until you find what works best for that strain but if you're changing up strains it's best not to risk it. Also, 4 seedling isn't a large enough test group to declare that dose safe or even better than nothing at all. When starting from seed there will always be some plants that grow better than others. Personally, I usually end up with around 20% fucked up seedlings. These have always revovered and caught up to those that were normal seedlings but if you just saw them when they were young they looked terrible in comparison to the others.
 
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