Just add water

It's all in how you use the P sources.

Rock Phosphate is a slow release.
Alfalfa Meal is medium release
Guano's are fast release
liquid organic nutrients are delivered plant available. That means they are ready to be absorbed by the plant - just like synthetic nutrients.

I use plenty of it in (rock phosphate's) some soils (bloom) and less in those that run shorter.
Short to a little medium release is like guano's. You must be careful of it's use, as it can create P tox if over used.

Here is where I have to mention that I run all my soils at 6.5 for veg. and ambient room temps of an average of 75+ degrees F.
In bloom? I run at 6.7 - 6.8. Doing this is done by ignoring the soil's pH it's self and adding all ingoing set to those pH values

While I use several bloom rooms. They do have a temp difference of about 5-6 deg F between them. Average is 69-70, and LONG running sativa's up to 76F.

Why?

Because temp's of the soil are directly involved in P uptake. The higher the temp? The slower the availability for uptake.
The lower your temps? More available P for uptake. (By microbe actions in the soil)

Here comes the part about having an active healthy bio heard in your soil.

I have the blessing of running an all organic farm. In fact I'm the CEO of a 6 farm organic co-op. We run organic crops, raise organic animals, create organic dairy products and now (getting to be real big too) Raising organic brewing ingredients...

This allows me the freedom to employ farm byproducts in the building of my soils. here is where I get a vary broad spectrum of living bio's for my soil's.
NOTE: I like to run a fungal heavy spectrum soil for cannabis.

There is another note that can be critical to P uptake.
Ca will block P if over used or you make you soils to ca heavy.... It will slow it down at high rates of use to complete blocking.
This again will directly tie to Ph of the soil.
Always remember that when you water? The pH will swing over a point in one direction. as the soil dry's out? It swings back to the soil's "resting point".. Proper starting soil's allow the plant to grow into the soil in many ways. One is that the plant will "help" set the soil's pH at a spot the plant "likes".
Use a good proper soil when starting plants and up to the first real up potting to 1 gallons. It will help the plant with that pHing of the soil action.


I see folks doing "spikes" in bloom with some real odd choices for the P source. To me? This is just doing it the easy way AND increasing the chances of P and K issues! I don't "SPIKE" my soils at later bloom.

It takes time to hash out a good soil formula. Sometimes lots of time. Being able to "look" at a plant and "read" it? Is one of the biggest assets to being able to "build" a SS bloom formula...

That help some? :hug:
Spectacular. I want to visit the farm!
 
Spectacular. I want to visit the farm!

LOL. Most who do, want to see the 900 gallon Vortex tea brewer.....
Now it's mainly beer Brewers who come out to see the grain in the fields and the Hops going up their runners.

Still get a few Health /Whole food buyers. Not to mention the restaurant owners/chefs to see the Animal operations.

My first partner? Was a neighbor farmer. Got him to go meat production in Beef and Poultry. Dropped his dairy/grain operations to do it.
His daughter now runs all the Meat operations between 2 farms.

Mine still runs the vegetable ops, and some Hops production.
1 is the dairy operations (and all the corresponding field ops for it).
Cheese production is done at the old mushroom farm - underground for temp and RH control. (Yes I still run some fungus there but, more for our use and a few restaurant's. I do not use any of the mushroom compost! Too salty for cannabis use.)

The other 2 are old established grain operations. these 2 cover large tract's of land. Spread around 2 counties.
They are mostly shifted over to Barley, Rye, oats and some white corn runs for a cpl of whiskey (Bourbon) distiller's of note in the area.
The land not used for grains has been turned to Hops production. This farm was at onetime a flower farm. Should have seen the neighbors gawking at scratching heads, as we erected the pole lines for the Hops...

The price of good quality strains of organic Hops, has gone through the roof . Same for the organic brewing/distilling grains.
 
Lots of good information has been posted.

I'm thinking I'm going to do some supplementation. I wanted to do a water only run but I'm not going to just sit by and watch my plants go downhill if it doesn't work out. They're already starting to look a little rough. Nothing like my last try but not as healthy and lush as my coco runs. I've got some FPJ and I'll probably make a tea to apply.

They're filling out. This is 4 weeks but I can tell they are going to need something to make it to the end. I may rethink my "water only" strategy and commit to adding a few things during my grows. But I am definitely switching over from straight coco and salts despite how effortless it was. It's just too boring. I'm enjoying playing with worms, making IMO, FPJ, LAB, etc... I enjoy learning new things and there is so much that will keep me busy for a long time.

I'll make it to the end and harvest some decent weed but I'm going to have to tweak things in the future.

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