Japan:

NoDrama said:

honestly, I kind of enjoyed watching the brutal cop get torn limb from limb by the crowd.

at .4 microsieverts your going to last about 10 days, then you will have received a life threatening amount by then.

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That one crazy cop was way out of line. I don't like seeing any violence actually any more, too old to get a kick out of it, but I hope at least they got the right cop and not the one who tried to stop the crazy one.

Cool someone who knows something. How long can fukushima workers last before they're dead and have to be continually replaced? Every time they show those guys, they sheild them from camera's with the blue tarp. It always makes me wonder what they're hiding. Maybe they don't want loved ones seeing their kin looking half dead or crying into the cameras, or maybe they keep feeding new victims in I don't know. What are your thoughts? What would they look like now if we could see them?

I also wonder about their weird diet they said something about some crackers ok, but what special mix was the other part? They said some kind of processed specialty thing.

I just remember what that email from one of the workers said. "If this is hell, all we can do is hope to crawl towards heaven." Or something like that...

Articles like this make me wonder what's really going on:
(NaturalNews) Censorship of the truth about what is really going on at the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear facility has been taken to a whole new level of corruption. According to a recent report from the Shingetsu News Agency, the Japanese Ministry of Internal Affairs and Communication (MIAC), in conjunction with the National Police Agency and the Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry (METI), has established a special project team to crack down on independent and freelance news agencies that criticize or otherwise scrutinize the official Japanese government position concerning Fukushima.

The Japanese government appears to be working closely with both the Tokyo Electric Power Company (TEPCO) and the nation's mainstream media outlets to maintain the facade that everything is just fine, and that the nuclear meltdown situation is largely mitigated and under control. But recent prodding and questioning by certain media sources outside this "good ol' boys" club have struck a nerve with authorities, sparking the new crackdown on those who oppose the official story. Authorities say such scrutiny is a threat to national security.

source: http://www.naturalnews.com/032159_Japanese_government_Fukushima.html

Don't worry cryptkeeper, I don't know what I'm saying either.

In Japan, if you are in the Main stream Media and you say something bad about TEPCO, you get fired from your job. TEPCO Provides HUGE advertisement Yen to media companies in Japan.
Remember in WW2 the Japanese were all told by every media outlet that they were winning the war against the Americans, even the day of Hiroshima. Japanese culture is one of never offending another.

UncleBuck said:

thank you for that.

now, let's take an event even worse than that into account. let's also take into account that the portland/hillsboro area is not the same as a narrow inlet in lituya bay, alaska.

is it still realistic to think that a tsunami or even megatsunami can reach over 60 miles inland? can it swell a river over 75 miles inland and 15 miles from me enough to come over 600+ feet of hills and still reach me?

no, it is not possible. the only way hillsboro will see the ocean is by evaporation and rain. which happens often enough.

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Dude. I just want the bud.

NoDrama said:

Japanese culture is one of never offending another.

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LMAO That's so true. They are very offensive people though.

Nuclear power in Japan reduced as they shut down two or three reactors not involved with the Earth Quake.

In the reactors we know of the number 1 reactor is assumed as being in "melt down" state officially.

Hey. We gave Japan a great run. But it's time to move on. Osama Bin Laden has finally been proclaimed as dead, and now that's the hot topic.

Take time to realize that as we grow we have the capacity to hold more than one focal in mind at any one time.

Yes there are more current issues but this has not expired.

I submit this reply in respect and you have my best wishes.

Ernst said:

Take time to realize that as we grow we have the capacity to hold more than one focal in mind at any one time.

Yes there are more current issues but this has not expired.

I submit this reply in respect and you have my best wishes.

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Yo. It's a fucked up standard, but just saying it's not true, doesn't make it any less true. Japan HAS expired.

NoDrama said:

In Japan, if you are in the Main stream Media and you say something bad about TEPCO, you get fired from your job. TEPCO Provides HUGE advertisement Yen to media companies in Japan.
Remember in WW2 the Japanese were all told by every media outlet that they were winning the war against the Americans, even the day of Hiroshima. Japanese culture is one of never offending another.

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There is nothing you said here that doesn't equally apply to our good ol USofA. You say something bad about an advertiser or sponsor or contributor or big corporate owner or against what your editor says to say, or whatever doesn't fit right with management, you may get away with just a warning once if it's not too bad but otherwise you are out on your ass and often barred from the entire industry since most of it is owned and controlled by just a tiny tiny few. Say things you shouldn't about the government and pressure is applied by every means possible to get rid of you or silence you. Your station will be reminded that war correspondents are only embedded now, and your station won't get in. You will be reminded that a seat in the white house press core is a privelege and your company risks loosing that seat. Etc etc etc.

You want to air a story is has to be approved by management first, often stories are silenced before you ever hear of them like the one about bovine growth hormone, look it up on youtube. We have practically zero independant reporting or stations left and it's not by accident, our media is entirely controlled and propaganda as far as they can push it.

Let me remind you the jet stream that crosses japan and comes straight to us carrying fukushima radiation with a half life of many years is only 5 hours away.
5 hours away is nothing, the stuff is hitting us with unhealthy levels and we hear almost nothing about it if not nothing. We also hear almost nothing about how the EPA was ordered to increase "safe" raditation levels in this country by 10k times what we had previous to fukushima. And we don't hear the reason why that was done was so no alarms go off and everything seems normal. You also don't hear why every time there seems to be a huge out of the ordinary catastrophe like 911 to tornado's to earthquakes in japan we are either running a drill near that place, or have ships minutes away to offer our "assistance". What a wonderful cooincidence all these things are...

It's in full meltdown and they're clueless... We need to fill it with water, no we don't it's fine because the rods have already melted to the bottom so less water is needed?
Lets put up a tent of plastic around it, yea that'll contain it.
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This is a nice ride and stroll around a radioactive evacuation zone a month ago. Dogs and cattle roaming around, you get to see the damage and high radiation levels.
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Here is what we get: Looks very serious, worth taking the time to watch it.
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Yeah it's still bad..

I guess this has morphed more into the Nuclear danger but Japan is shutting down more reactors than just these.

So what will Japan do>?

Japan is in a world of economic hurt for energy as we all are or will be.

They wanted to grow to 50% on their electric by Nuclear and now? More debt of oil I guess?

What future for any of us is there when it comes to affordable energy?

"What future for any of us is there when it comes to affordable energy? "

Doesn't look good but I bet he would work for weed:

OregonMeds said:

"What future for any of us is there when it comes to affordable energy? "

Doesn't look good but I bet he would work for weed:

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That's funny because I was just looking at bicycle generators.

Yes what chance do we have? We saw that even if we are good people and pay our bills we still lose our homes and jobs..

What choice do we have for any materials?

Nice reply.

Thanks.

Well here is what I was looking at as far as materials when I was thinking of making my own generator. Rip apart the lawnmower and take the alternator from the spare car. I had an inverter but I seem to have lost it, but they're pretty cheap. The same concept would work for a bike, but would probably be really hard to pedal enough to get a/c power. To get dc wouldn't be bad, pedal however much you can to charge the batteries and run dc stuff directly:
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Engines can be modified to run off external heat, as in concentrated solar in the form of a sterling engine or even an engine heated with fire:
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With a tiny generator:
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Useful sized sterling expensive:
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Probably just be better off with solar panels, that is if you can afford any when the need comes up.

boy u guys r just cheerier bunch all doom and gloom

OregonMeds said:

Thanks.

Well here is what I was looking at as far as materials when I was thinking of making my own generator. Rip apart the lawnmower and take the alternator from the spare car. I had an inverter but I seem to have lost it, but they're pretty cheap. The same concept would work for a bike, but would probably be really hard to pedal enough to get a/c power. To get dc wouldn't be bad, pedal however much you can to charge the batteries and run dc stuff directly:
[youtube]aY9qmeA8gVI[/youtube]

Engines can be modified to run off external heat, as in concentrated solar in the form of a sterling engine or even an engine heated with fire:
[youtube]5pdqDQwehlk[/youtube]

With a tiny generator:
[youtube]20wQOZbHXvo[/youtube]

Useful sized sterling expensive:
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Probably just be better off with solar panels, that is if you can afford any when the need comes up.

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these look pretty handy if you had enough money to buy a few you could heat your house and power it at same time, maybe even steal some power back from your HID's
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but will be needing to use nuclear power too it is too important to not use

all the powerstations in trouble in japan are of a very old design needs constant active work by us to stop them having full meltdown

new generations of powerstation have got a passive design. in an emergency the engineers could walk not return and there would never be a meltdown

I don't think we'll have power plants running at all at some point if either the rumors of solar flares or war with china and or russia are true. The first thing both sides plan is a hit with space or missle based nuclear EMP's in war, and solar flares can do the same as an EMP. Either will fry the power grids and most anything electronic especially anything with ic's and send us without power potentially for years to come. Most cars and trucks would be dead too, computers which run everything including the power grid and nuke plants and their monitoring and cooling... It wouldn't be pretty. If you have an emergency kit with radio, mp3, generator, whatever shield it from emp.

OregonMeds said:

I don't think we'll have power plants running at all at some point if either the rumors of solar flares or war with china and or russia are true. The first thing both sides plan is a hit with space or missle based nuclear EMP's in war, and solar flares can do the same as an EMP. Either will fry the power grids and most anything electronic especially anything with ic's and send us without power potentially for years to come. Most cars and trucks would be dead too, computers which run everything including the power grid and nuke plants and their monitoring and cooling... It wouldn't be pretty. If you have an emergency kit with radio, mp3, generator, whatever shield it from emp.

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launching any sort of nuclear attack against the usa will result in full nuclear attack in return. if they're gonna do it then they're gonna do it properly the first time

and i wouldnt worry about solar flares in 2012 anymore than i would in 2011 or 2013 or even 2020..

We are beyond nuclear nuclear. Nuclear based EMP's real threat isn't nuclear at all, only electronic disaster.

There seems to be some double dealing potentially going on for the new world order, in that russia and china may not be our governments enemy, possibly their saviour from us the people if things go badly for them. FF this video to 6:13 and see all that we are stocking here on our soil:
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If they are acting as our enemies but actually our governments leaders protectors via some backdoor deal, you can bet we won't be nuking them.

This sounds funny and retarded, but there is a lot more to indicate there may be something to this:
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I don't know what to believe these days, but it does seem like maybe we have been sold out. Just putting out there some rather odd things I have found.

Publicly we get this:
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And this:
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Either way, doesn't look good.


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I went with a 2 stroke motor for my new powered bicycle because the 4 stroke Japanese motors have nearly tippled in price.