Japan:

OregonMeds said:

UncleBuck (love that movie)

I'm an honorably discharged Army Infantry and Radioman with 6 years under my belt. No I was not in a war and no PTSD. My mailbox had blue and white, then it went to red and a black stripe of electrical tape was placed over the center part of the the white. The only drug I did regularly was pot and I admit I smoked shitloads but that's been months ago. Some weekends I would drink, months ago, but not bad and because of my dui I haven't been able to drink or smoke or anything since January.

No hallucinogens, no meth, nothing else and I do mean nothing. No mental problems or history of them ever. Good house, nice life, Microsoft and Novell certified network engineer, ok looking guy enough that I can get dates etc. I am not some lonely depressed shut in, failure, reject, or whatever if that's what you are thinking.

I take to the time to research everything and read every news source or internet source I can find for clues to what's actually going on, and never said I know for sure what's going on yet, other than something big clearly is. I hate referring to prophecies but it's just so weird how they do seem to correspond to what is actually appearing to have and continue to be happening I can't resist. I know it sounds crazy, I don't blame you one bit. And again let me say the only things I am sure of is actual government documents and buildings, that National Guard commercial is real, senate bills are real, I have actually read the source of them and any of you could....

Much of this other stuff is rumor and speculation and yes I hate to admit prophecies too but it's sure eerie how it all adds up. You don't have to believe anything at all other than actual facts you can check yourself. Something's not right in our country with our relation to the middle east, with our entire foreign policy, with the wolfowitz doctrine, with our relationship with the UN, China and Russia and everyone else. It's as if we're just begging for WW3. The wolfowitz doctrine which is still the basis for our foreign policy insists that we keep other countries down and do whatever it takes to ensure nobody can ever challenge us as a superpower again. That means forcibly keeping the entire rest of the world under our big dumb thumb even russia it would seem.

You can't have a foreign policy like we have and not expect to be enemy number one of the entire rest of the world, unless you have the rest of the world under your control, and presently we have 4 countries we are militarily squishing under ours. Japan, Afghanistan, Iraq, and now Libya, apart from how we pressure and control and spy on the UN.

If you wanted to make a perfect recipe for WW3, all you would need to do is follow our example.

We have spent trillions of dollars to kill hundreds of thousands of people all over the world in the last 10 years, supposedly in the interests of freeing them from evil dictators who killed less people than we have since we kicked the evil dictators out. All while we are supposedly so broke the government is going to shut down any second, and while russia and china and India and oh yea lets not forget Iran and N korea all ramp up militarily you can check their spending on military hardware and new projects online just as you could ours.

If all that isn't clear to you, that something is seriously wrong and Japan is just a part of it, then I don't know any better way to explain it.

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Well realize mr. clean that we are looking out for American interests and you swore and oath to protect that from both foreign and domestic.

I asked at my first security briefing.. "What? We have Americans that hate America?" It was the moment of me waking up.
So what do you think? Will blind obedience save us or just define which benefits line we have access to in the Future America?
The USA did wait longer than most to become Imperialist but we also aid other countries.

The Cryptkeeper said:

^^^What he said.

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great, now i want a sandwich.

you happy?

UncleBuck said:

and how do you expect it to get over the coastal range, which goes up to 3,000+ feet?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Oregon_Coast_Range

the ocean will NEVER arrive to hillsboro, or aloha, or anywhere else around here.

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The entire willammette valley is a big bowl with a direct low altitude line to sea open at barely above sea level where the columbia goes through the mountain range.

Did you not even read a word I said? How do you think the columbia and willamette drain out to sea and get out of our VALLEY, past the mountain range?
Do you think it goes from our 100ft above sea level at the base of the valley and climbs uphill 3000+ feet and then back down and out to sea? Maybe there's a water escalator?

Maybe you'd rather just grab a surfboard:
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Ernst I don't think fulfilling the oath, which I am doing by speaking out and trying to wake up others, requires us to fall into exactly the trap set and going to war and playing right into the plan.

They want productivity, even the National Guard ad proves that, so at some point I think the best course of action is being as non productive as possible as long as it takes so that we don't support any killing or further sufferring or support the military industrial machine buying weapons to use against eachother to reach their depopulation goal or anything of the sort.

We have to think outside the box on this one, and not go along with the plan. Watch what is happening in Libya, we don't want or need that. If there is no violence from the people to justify attacking us, people stop faling for false flag attacks to lead us into the war they want, and no support from the people for the current government to allow them to stay in charge, their plan seems to fall apart.

OregonMeds said:

The entire willammette valley is a big bowl with a direct low altitude line to sea open at barely above sea level where the columbia goes through the mountain range.

Did you not even read a word I said? How do you think the columbia and willamette drain out to sea and get out of our VALLEY, past the mountain range?
Do you think it goes from our 100ft above sea level at the base of the valley and climbs uphill 3000+ feet and then back down and out to sea? Maybe there's a water escalator?

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you are out of your fucking mind. there is NO WAY the ocean will get to portland. draw me a line. show me fucking how. it can't be done. too many fucking mountains in the way.

the willamette and the columbia are DOWN THE HILL from aloha and hillsboro. several hundred feet down the hill.

again, there is no fucking way ocean water will EVER wash down upon hillsboro, unless of course it evaporates and then comes down from the fucking clouds.

and WHY IS THERE NO STICKER ON MY MAILBOX? what purpose have they set aside for me?

edit: additionally, we are 60 fucking miles inland. no tsunami, even over flat ground, can ever reach that far. even 5 miles would be a stretch.

60 fucking miles over the coastal range....NOT GONNA HAPPEN!

Here this is interesting after what I said about our low elevation isn't it?
100 places to see before they dissappear:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_newsroom/20110421/sc_yblog_newsroom/photos-of-endangered-places-around-the-world





IF you don't have stickers on your mailboxes by all means tell me where you fall in the elevation list I posted a page or two back. I gave elevations for every city in this area.
I'm at ~ 150ft here and there is a creek two blocks away.

Please don't tell me I have to explain where the columbia river is to you or what the blue means on this map you posted.

Let us also not forget one lesson from japan:

McNamara found the way in which the quake actually sank the elevation of the country's terrain to be more troublesome than coastal shifting. "You see cities still underwater; the reason is subsidence," he said. "The land actually dropped, so when the tsunami came in, it's just staying."

Source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/12/japan-earthquake-axis-shift-climate-change_n_834985.html

Japan has not been, and will not be alone in this:

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I'm not ready to say there are aliens in control of us but certainly our leadership acts against us, hasn't planned to sustain us long term if there is a real problem, isn't growing every crop needed to see us all through hard times, isn't telling the truth or relocating us to save us if there is an event coming our way, is distracting us with total bullshit... Enough is true in this, I felt it worth posting.

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OregonMeds said:

IF you don't have stickers on your mailboxes by all means tell me where you fall in the elevation list I posted a page or two back. I gave elevations for every city in this area.
I'm at ~ 150ft here and there is a creek two blocks away.

Please don't tell me I have to explain where the columbia river is to you or what the blue means on this map you posted.

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those rivers are over 200 feet DOWN THE HILL!

i'll tell you what....if those rivers ever overflow their banks by even HALF that much, i will buy you a beer. or some crazy pills. your choice.

the west hills are over 1,000 feet.

we are over 60 miles inland. show me any tsunami that has ever gone close to 60 miles inland. please do.

you are out of your fucking mind on this one, bro.

http://www.katu.com/news/content/4756651.html

edit: i am at 150 feet, near mckay creek, and guess what? no fucking stickers, either.

from 198th and tv highway, go....

south: at farmington road, you will run into cooper mountain, which goes up to about 650 feet.
west: take the tv highway and past forest grove you hit the coastal range, elevations up to 3,000 feet.
north: go up cornelius pass and you'll hit the west hills, elevations up to 1,100 feet along skyline.
east: you'll run into sylvan hill, hundreds of feet above the willamette.

rivers don't flood several hundred feet above their banks.

tsunamis don't come 60 miles inland.

oh, and i was driving today, going down jackson school road just south of evergreen, and was looking at mailboxes right near a creek...no stickers. imagine that. no stickers on any mailbox on the entire road.

explain that.

Dude I don't care if you believe or don't believe, chill out man. I don't "know" that we are going to get a big one or that something bad will happen in my area or why there are these stickers or why there is all this weird shit going on. All I'm trying to do is get others to start paying attention and asking questions. If an earthquake happens here in the near future, a big one, maybe you will think about getting to higher ground "just in case" or maybe not, it's totally up to you man.

I'm not sitting here predicting crazy shit in advance like a real or fake UFO landing all over the world, or the second coming of christ, buddha, allah, about to be projected into the sky in the near future with HAARP and Project Bluebeam, and speaking to peoples minds using electronic mind control from our own sattellites or anything to pacify people and make them go along with the new world order. I'm not trying to get you to believe there are reptilians running our country, working with the borg like collective to make us slaves and steal earths resources, etc etc etc like so many video's are claiming on youtube. I'm not claiming our country is behind using mind control to make weak minded men rape lots of women, and make serial killers out of others, so the masses will accept being chipped and tracked and give up more rights for their own safety, or that we are being chemtrail sprayed right over my house, or that all of washington oregon and california have been under subversive attack neighborhood by neighborhood chipping people and brainwashing them so they can no longer think for themselves and become part of the collective. Not saying there is actually all this kind of weird shit happening everywhere severe weather events are and have been going on. I'm ONLY saying there's some seriously wrong shit going on, our network news is bullshit, I'm sure lots of the stuff on youtube is bullshit too and what seems more likely from what I have seen or read is there's a huge mass distraction going on, a mass deception maybe, but I do believe a serious weather attempt will probably come here.

Who knows maybe now they'll change it to setting off a volcano, or hitting a nuclear plant, or dumping killer chemicals out of Intel Aloha to wipe us out so it's not the same as what info was leaked. But after all the crazy shit I have seen and read, I do actually believe our weather and earthquakes are being manipulated, just like Japan's, I do believe we have the technology for that, whether you do or not.

BTW, as strange as all the above sounds, the pope is honestly scheduled to talk to the space station on may 4th... How batshit crazy is it that? All the sudden the pope want's to call the space station? WTF?
Hello space station... This is the Pope. Is jesus there yet, I'd like to talk to him.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/pope_to_make_out_of_world_contact_satellite_phone_hookup_with_space_station_planned/2011/04/22/AFgEPSNE_story.html

Please do buy me a beer and or smoke me out in about 3 months, when I can legally after my pee tests are over, if we are still around.

It's probably just a matter of doing whatever it takes for our politicians to stay in office and steal another election, and avoid any kind of actual change. But until something happens to make things clear lets just chill k, no need to keep calling me nuts I totally TOTALLY get it... I know all the shit people are saying is bat shit crazy, but just watch and see what happens next. The crazyness isn't over.
I'm not buying into all or any of it for sure, I'm just watching and scratching my head and staying informed and prepared as little as I can.
Above all knowledge is power, the absolute insanity of all the rest of it is just completely fascinating.

i just want you to admit that it is not physically possible for a tsunami to reach hillsboro, that rivers do not flood their banks by over 100 feet (in elevation), etc.

that is all. if you can admit that the ocean washing up in hillsboro is physically impossible, i will gladly give you a free eighth out of my next harvest.

UncleBuck said:

i just want you to admit that it is not physically possible for a tsunami to reach hillsboro, that rivers do not flood their banks by over 100 feet (in elevation), etc.

that is all. if you can admit that the ocean washing up in hillsboro is physically impossible, i will gladly give you a free eighth out of my next harvest.

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What about a tsunami via a meteor or the polar ice caps melting. The latter wouldn't be a tsunami, but devils advocate is always fun. =)

The Cryptkeeper said:

What about a tsunami via a meteor or the polar ice caps melting. The latter wouldn't be a tsunami, but devils advocate is always fun. =)

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you got me fair and square.

my argument has been rendered invalid.

Wait a minute did cryptkeeper just take the side of crazy conspiracy theorists? Devils advocate is a very funny choice of words considering many are claiming these "aliens" are "demons" of ancient times.

Anyway back to Japan. Beep beep beep beep I don't know what this level means but that beep doesn't sound good.
Looks really high when he puts it on the fishing gear.
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Here was his town a few days prior. Still seems high, more beep beep beep
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UncleBuck said:

i just want you to admit that it is not physically possible for a tsunami to reach hillsboro, that rivers do not flood their banks by over 100 feet (in elevation), etc.

that is all. if you can admit that the ocean washing up in hillsboro is physically impossible, i will gladly give you a free eighth out of my next harvest.

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The 1958 Lituya Bay megatsunami occurred on July 9, 1958, when a landslide caused 30 million cubic meters of rock and ice to fall into the narrow inlet of Lituya Bay, Alaska. The sudden displacement of water resulted in a wave tens of meters high, that washed over trees and was ultimately measured as washing 524 meters (1,720 feet) up the opposite slope of the inlet, 143 meters (470 feet) taller than the roof of the Empire State Building. This is the highest recorded megatsunami and the largest known in modern times. The event forced a re-evaluation of large wave events, and recognition of impact and landslide events as a previously unknown cause of very large waves.

On 9 July 1958, an earthquake of magnitude 7.7 (on the Richter scale), caused 90 million tonnes of rock and ice to drop into the deep water at the head of Lituya Bay. The block fell almost vertically and hit the water with sufficient force to create a wave approximately 524 metres (1,719 ft) high. Howard Ulrich and his son, Howard Jr., were in the bay in their fishing boat when they saw the wave. They both survived and reported that the wave carried their boat "over the trees" on one of the initial waves which washed them back into the bay, though the larger wave did not harm them a great lot. A similar tsunami out at sea could come tens of kilometers inland.

How do you want to do this? I can come up there or you can come down here.. either way.

(kidding).

Thanks 524 meters means I need a bigger surfboard.

Holy shit...Check this out. That guy and his meter would melt with this fukushima level posted :
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What the f? One of our reactors...
[youtube]Cmt5ePtP70M[/youtube]

And isn't this curious:The EPA maintains a set of so-called "Protective Action Guides" (PAGs). These PAGs are being quickly revised to radically increase the allowable levels of iodine-131 (a radioactive isotope) to anywhere from 3,000 to 100,000 times the currently allowable levels.

The group Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility (PEER) is all over this issue, having obtained internal emails from a FOIA requests that reveal some truly shocking revelations of the level of back-stabbing betrayal happening inside the EPA. For example, under the newly-revised PAGs, drinking just one glass of water considered "safe" by the EPA could subject you to the lifetime limit of radiation. (http://www.peer.org/news/news_id.ph...)

"In addition," PEER goes on to say, "it would allow long-term cleanup limits thousands of times more lax than anything EPA has ever before accepted. These new limits would cause a cancer in as much as every fourth person exposed."

Source: http://www.naturalnews.com/031963_radiation_exposure.html

What have I been saying, shit's not right....

Interesting, see how this guy is just nailed in the head while he's down, all he was doing was non violently protesting radiation, then people aren't happy: Can you believe they did this right on tv in front of stands full of people? Something not right...

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OregonMeds said:

What have I been saying?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

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We honestly don't know.

Carne Seca said:

The 1958 Lituya Bay megatsunami occurred on July 9, 1958, when a landslide caused 30 million cubic meters of rock and ice to fall into the narrow inlet of Lituya Bay, Alaska. The sudden displacement of water resulted in a wave tens of meters high, that washed over trees and was ultimately measured as washing 524 meters (1,720 feet) up the opposite slope of the inlet, 143 meters (470 feet) taller than the roof of the Empire State Building. This is the highest recorded megatsunami and the largest known in modern times. The event forced a re-evaluation of large wave events, and recognition of impact and landslide events as a previously unknown cause of very large waves.

On 9 July 1958, an earthquake of magnitude 7.7 (on the Richter scale), caused 90 million tonnes of rock and ice to drop into the deep water at the head of Lituya Bay. The block fell almost vertically and hit the water with sufficient force to create a wave approximately 524 metres (1,719 ft) high. Howard Ulrich and his son, Howard Jr., were in the bay in their fishing boat when they saw the wave. They both survived and reported that the wave carried their boat "over the trees" on one of the initial waves which washed them back into the bay, though the larger wave did not harm them a great lot. A similar tsunami out at sea could come tens of kilometers inland.

How do you want to do this? I can come up there or you can come down here.. either way.

(kidding).

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thank you for that.

now, let's take an event even worse than that into account. let's also take into account that the portland/hillsboro area is not the same as a narrow inlet in lituya bay, alaska.

is it still realistic to think that a tsunami or even megatsunami can reach over 60 miles inland? can it swell a river over 75 miles inland and 15 miles from me enough to come over 600+ feet of hills and still reach me?

no, it is not possible. the only way hillsboro will see the ocean is by evaporation and rain. which happens often enough.

honestly, I kind of enjoyed watching the brutal cop get torn limb from limb by the crowd.

at .4 microsieverts your going to last about 10 days, then you will have received a life threatening amount by then.

UncleBuck said:

thank you for that.

now, let's take an event even worse than that into account. let's also take into account that the portland/hillsboro area is not the same as a narrow inlet in lituya bay, alaska.

is it still realistic to think that a tsunami or even megatsunami can reach over 60 miles inland? can it swell a river over 75 miles inland and 15 miles from me enough to come over 600+ feet of hills and still reach me?

no, it is not possible. the only way hillsboro will see the ocean is by evaporation and rain. which happens often enough.

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It's the only non-apocalyptic way.