I've never PH'ed my water

But have decided to start (soil ffof) My question is if my regular nutrients lowered my PH to 5.4 and I ph my nutrients to 6.5 would that cause my plants to take in more nutrients and also cause them to burn?

I guess what I'm saying is should I feed them the regular amount of nutrients after I ph to 6.5? Or should I step down to half of what I normally feed with?

I hope this isn't too confusing, anyway thanks.

A little more info could help like the type of food you feed.

Depends on what nutes you are using, ppm etc....

the fox farm trio, grow big, big bloom, tiger bloom... also beasty bloomz, cha ching, and open sesame.

The next feeding will be with tiger bloom, big bloom, and cha ching

I've got to go to work now, but thanks, will check back in the morning.

hmm your not alone, i never ph my water either. a lot of people don't it just another variable that really doesn't need to be messed with.

Wether im right or not there is a lot of myth about this, wish someone would make an accurate sticky about pH oneday so no one could doubt pH and water.

Now i dont pH nothing, no nutes and no water, it never drops below about 5.5 to above 8.5, any more than this and you would shock your roots i suppose. The roots are actually in the soil not in water like hydro and aero where ph is all the more important as you see get the water to the wrong pH and big fail! As with soil get the water to the wrong pH and mysteriously nothing happens! Wow is all this info about water pH just another big fat myth when concerned with soil! I would guess so, it takes water ages to change soils pH. Soil cation exchange capacities, hydrogen bases and more make it not as simple as growers first were mthically told.

Easiest thing to do is grow two plants, dont pH the water and feeds for one but pH everything to pH 6.5 for the other and then see that it makes no difference for yourself. Soil and water are two different things and when growing in soil your not growing in water but hell believe what you want as long as your plants are healthy thats the main thing. Peace

Who is spreading all this pH BS around Rollitup in the first place, grow your plants not your myths!lol! Peace

Damn its like plants wouldnt have been able to grow all them hundreds of years ago before pH and ppm meters, just how did they survive when all fertilizers are acidic in water!

Kingrow1 said:

Wether im right or not there is a lot of myth about this, wish someone would make an accurate sticky about pH oneday so no one could doubt pH and water.

Now i dont pH nothing, no nutes and no water, it never drops below about 5.5 to above 8.5, any more than this and you would shock your roots i suppose. The roots are actually in the soil not in water like hydro and aero where ph is all the more important as you see get the water to the wrong pH and big fail! As with soil get the water to the wrong pH and mysteriously nothing happens! Wow is all this info about water pH just another big fat myth when concerned with soil! I would guess so, it takes water ages to change soils pH. Soil cation exchange capacities, hydrogen bases and more make it not as simple as growers first were mthically told.

Easiest thing to do is grow two plants, dont pH the water and feeds for one but pH everything to pH 6.5 for the other and then see that it makes no difference for yourself. Soil and water are two different things and when growing in soil your not growing in water but hell believe what you want as long as your plants are healthy thats the main thing. Peace

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Like...How does it make such a big difference to grow in hydro than soil...since the nutrient intake is optimal in the correct pH range? I dont grow in soil, strictly hydro so obviously you have to keep the pH in the correct range for best results and to reduce risk of lockout/shock.

your in fox farm ocean forest, thats some good soil, it buffers the ph itself, and those nutrients your talking about are quite acidic so they will lower the ph of your solution. however i think your just making it too complicated haha, if your plants are happy than why change stuff?

its like making sure your oil is changed every 3000 miles even though it can go to 10,000, it just makes it run that much better being looked after so much.

mastiffkush said:

Like...How does it make such a big difference to grow in hydro than soil...since the nutrient intake is optimal in the correct pH range? I dont grow in soil, strictly hydro so obviously you have to keep the pH in the correct range for best results and to reduce risk of lockout/shock.

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To answer your question, because were growing in SOIL NOT WATER like in hydro, whats the water pH got to do with the soil pH when growing in soil, two different things which a lot of soil growers seem to think are the same thing. Your digital pH meters dont read soil pH only water pH.

People think because they are growing in soil its all to do with the pH of the water, FALSE, its to do with the hydrogen ions which are loosley bound to the soil particles. Alkaline ions may replace them to bring the soil pH up, this in soil is called a BUFFER and FU#K ALL to do with water although water may posses a small amount of alkaline ions which is why over the LONG TERM water may be able to alter the pH of the soil but we are talking a long time here and not for normal 3/4 month grows.

Ill futher simplify this for new growers who dont want to get mixed up in the myth-

If you grow in hydro or in soil with chemical ferts then adjust and pay close attention to your water pH but if using natural inorganic or organic ferts in soil the only thing you need to be wary off is not raising water pH above 8.5 and below 5.5 as this will shock the roots, other than that water away and rest assured its no big deal, your soil has a pH regardless of water, if you wana know it look at the back of the bag or send it away to a lab, this is the only way you'll ever get an accurate soil pH, the fact that your soil is pH 6.5 and you add water at pH5.5 means your soil is still 6.5.

Since when did people get confused that soil pH is directly related to the pH of the ferts and water you add???? Its called a soil grow for a reason.

Too many people are saying the same thing about water in a soil grow and i am slowly giving up trying to explain. Peace

lovebud420 said:

your in fox farm ocean forest, thats some good soil, it buffers the ph itself, and those nutrients your talking about are quite acidic so they will lower the ph of your solution. however i think your just making it too complicated haha, if your plants are happy than why change stuff?

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Yep dude he is, like why bother with good ffof soil which is pre limed and supports pH neutralising microbes if we could just add the right pH feed and water to adjust our soil pH. Peace