Ive got a Tomato Problem!

Psilobloom

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Hello All, Ive got some tomato cuts from my outdoor garden and figured I would try my hand at keeping them going through winter in my tent.

These were rooted in plain water and planted into Fox Farm Happy Frog soil where they stayed and thrived until I needed to get them into bigger containers.

Shortly before transplant only one showed a sign of weakness and through my research I decided it was "edema", a symptom of over watering. Though I know I was not over watering because I waited until they pots were bone dry and lightweight, and the plants were sagging looking thirsty.

I transplanted two into new soil, Malibu's "Bu's Bio-dynamic Potting Soil" 3 Gal Fabric pots and I kept the third in Happy Frog as a sort of control. When I transplanted I moved them from a small tray under CFL's to the Tent in my basement rocking a 315 CMH lamp and proper ventilation.

Now, transplant shock aside I feel as though theres a larger issue here and I had figured it to be a Phosphorus deficiency but really wanted to get some input from another source. The plants became rigid, and the edge of the leaves began to turn a shade of Gray/Purple. This occurred in all 3 plants but was MORE EVIDENT in the two plants that changed soil. Growth has slowed to somewhat of a walk compared to the crazy vigorous pre-transplant growth they were at. They are all still growing and all three starting to produce fruit but again at an very slow rate. The Happy Frog plant dried out enough to water (Mixed in 1/3 strength Big Bloom and pHed to around 6-6.5) , and I am still waiting on the other two to dry enough to possibly feed what they need.


This first image is of the plant in Happy Frog, after I fed it and checked on her I saw that rigidity had INCREASED and the branches were literally curling backward.

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The next few images are of the other two....

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kratos015

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How long has it been since you moved them from outside to indoors?

From everything you've written, if it's not transplant shock then I'm kind of stumped.

Overall, the plants look healthy and if your main goal is to just get them to survive through the winter I think you'll be more than fine.

Something to consider, those are plants that are used to the sun that now have to adjust to having a significantly smaller amount of light than what they're used to getting from the sun. And while a 315 CMH has a great spectrum, nothing can compare to the sun unfortunately.

I'm inclined to think that this is just all natural and the plant is still acclimating itself to it's new environment. Give it another week or so and I'm sure things will start to look better. Just consider the difference between the sun and a 315w light, I'm inclined to believe that's the issue and it should sort itself out in time.
 

Psilobloom

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How long has it been since you moved them from outside to indoors?

From everything you've written, if it's not transplant shock then I'm kind of stumped.

Overall, the plants look healthy and if your main goal is to just get them to survive through the winter I think you'll be more than fine.

Something to consider, those are plants that are used to the sun that now have to adjust to having a significantly smaller amount of light than what they're used to getting from the sun. And while a 315 CMH has a great spectrum, nothing can compare to the sun unfortunately.

I'm inclined to think that this is just all natural and the plant is still acclimating itself to it's new environment. Give it another week or so and I'm sure things will start to look better. Just consider the difference between the sun and a 315w light, I'm inclined to believe that's the issue and it should sort itself out in time.
I am hoping youre right! no worries if I have to pop some new cherries. These have been inside since late sept. I took cuts from the plant outside and rooted them. They had completely recovered from that and were THRIVING under a t5.
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OPfarmer

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Yes Phosphorus.

Not necessarily deficiency. Could be soil temperature.

I get it frequently in my permanent 50f climate.

If your soil is below 70f??
 
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