Is this the product of Fungus Gnats? HELP!! Used to be healthy plant dying

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Tim1987

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Gday mate.
Thought i might chip in.....

At a guess for next grow.
More drainage, and aeration. If your root zone is nicely aerated it'll deter the gnats from using your medium to breed in the first place.
Gnats are actually attracted by rotting material in the soil. Because its food for the maggots.
Something to bare in mind.
They like anaerobic environments to lay their eggs.

Ive had them once indoors, during warm weather. I use rocket pots. Sand on the top etc was useless. They were using the holes on the sides to travel in and out etc. The wrigglers were near the bottoms of my pots.
Only solution in the end, was to dry them right out.

It really wouldnt surprise me if a small amount of your soil is staying continuously damp. Such as the centre of your root ball.
Being "supersoil" probably means its from a recipe, and is very rich in organic matter. So without adequate drainage and aeration would support a favorable environment for gnats to thrive.

Just my 2cents.

They're annoying little bastards.

Good luck OP.

:peace:
 
Kent Sage

Kent Sage

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Catching the gnats alive and testing different sprays on it may tell you whats best to use lol spray them while they are on the traps sometimes is easiest the quickest and least harmful to the plant is usually the best :lol:
 
alphapinene

alphapinene

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Tim1987 said:
Gday mate.
Thought i might chip in.....

At a guess for next grow.
More drainage, and aeration. If your root zone is nicely aerated it'll deter the gnats from using your medium to breed in the first place.
Gnats are actually attracted by rotting material in the soil. Because its food for the maggots.
Something to bare in mind.
They like anaerobic environments to lay their eggs.

Ive had them once indoors, during warm weather. I use rocket pots. Sand on the top etc was useless. They were using the holes on the sides to travel in and out etc. The wrigglers were near the bottoms of my pots.
Only solution in the end, was to dry them right out.

It really wouldnt surprise me if a small amount of your soil is staying continuously damp. Such as the centre of your root ball.
Being "supersoil" probably means its from a recipe, and is very rich in organic matter. So without adequate drainage and aeration would support a favorable environment for gnats to thrive.

Just my 2cents.

They're annoying little bastards.

Good luck OP.

:peace:
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thanks for the help man..I think you're right with the damp root ball..I used ancient forest alaskan humus as 1/2 my compost which is VERY VERY dank/damp/clumpy I suspect that's the problem right there..too much compost not enough aeration..even tho 33% of my mix is pumice/perlite..
 
alphapinene

alphapinene

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IMG_8579 (2).JPG she's a fighter... new growth is coming in strong and nice and green ..maybe I just will let her live to see another week..i'll be going away for a week in a couple of days so i'm using the scrog line as a test..if I come back to burnt/crispy leaves at the screen line then she;s getting pulled ;(
 
Kent Sage

Kent Sage

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alphapinene said:
View attachment 4154726 she's a fighter... new growth is coming in strong and nice and green ..maybe I just will let her live to see another week..i'll be going away for a week in a couple of days so i'm using the scrog line as a test..if I come back to burnt/crispy leaves at the screen line then she;s getting pulled ;(
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Would never throw that in the bin,
Especially if new growth is healthy.

Your soil is adequate as with most organics less water feeding might be helpful to prevent run off and high moisture levels especially if you use a tea. But consistency is usually as important as moisture and humidity imo.

I dont see how more air would help because fungus requires air... And gnats require fungus or else they would not stick around. I personally dont like air in organic soils because it sometimes can cause to much stretch or like roger said earlier on this board hot pockets of air in the root zone can rot and give gnats a healthy home.

I have heard of some using coffee grinds around the roots it helps to lower pH and helps with bugs...?
https://www.organiclesson.com/6-ways-to-instantly-get-rid-of-gnats-at-home/

If there is no fungus present than there is at least algae...If that is the issue than algae fix would clear it up, it is usually used for ponds and aquatic plants but i always use it in the res and in a tea i am sure it would have the same results...?
https://www.apifishcare.com/product.php?id=619#.Wy5YjkCCOnM

Never know it may clear up while your away lol
Is this your first g13 haze plant?
 
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alphapinene

alphapinene

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Kent Sage said:
Would never throw that in the bin,
Especially if new growth is healthy.

Your soil is adequate as with most organics less water feeding might be helpful to prevent run off and high moisture levels especially if you use a tea. But consistency is usually as important as moisture and humidity imo.

I dont see how more air would help because fungus requires air... And gnats require fungus or else they would not stick around. I personally dont like air in organic soils because it sometimes can cause to much stretch or like roger said earlier on this board hot pockets of air in the root zone can rot and give gnats a healthy home.

I have heard of some using coffee grinds around the roots it helps to lower pH and helps with bugs...?
https://www.organiclesson.com/6-ways-to-instantly-get-rid-of-gnats-at-home/

If there is no fungus present than there is at least algae...If that is the issue than algae fix would clear it up, it is usually used for ponds and aquatic plants but i always use it in the res and in a tea i am sure it would have the same results...?
https://www.apifishcare.com/product.php?id=619#.Wy5YjkCCOnM

Never know it may clear up while your away lol
Is this your first g13 haze plant?
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Yeah we shall see!!

Nah it's my third..the first two were great. Nice n healthy ..some minor deficiencies but hey it was my first grow. I got ~6oz off two 1month veg in 3 gallon pots under chinese blurplea
 
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Kent Sage

Kent Sage

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Alcapulco Gold :bigjoint:
Would luv to see the pics of that if you ever care to share lol
I may order some Alaskan Thunder Fuck (ATF) seeds for next season. My other strains to grow are pineapple kush, blueberry, pineapple haze, GG #4, double berry, LACON, and 24kGold 8-) cant wait

AK and northern lights are classics!
 
Kent Sage

Kent Sage

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whitebb2727 said:
Dude. Pay attention. No one is talking about fungus. We are talking about fungus gnats.

Big difference.

Either way I wouldn't of used peroxide on living soil. Why would you? For a fungus in the soil? That's wanted with living soil.
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The last time i used super soil with peroxide my gnats looked like thisimage.jpg
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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actually, a bat house isn't a bad idea, they shit expensive fertilizer and eat a...shitload...of bugs....if one works, i'd build 3 or 4 more
 
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Tim1987

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I had the best Batman figurine, in primary school.
He had all these extra pieces of armour you could take off, and on. Even his cape.
I had the toy for a week. Took it to school show and tell.
Billy the kid stole it from me.
Never did get a Batman figurine as cool again........
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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that's when you ambush billy, and kick the shit out of him.....doesn't matter if he's bigger, or crazier, hit in the the knee with a baseball bat and he's a lot smaller all of a sudden....i wasn't a bully in school, but they didn't usually fuck with me too much...
 
Ginger Viking

Ginger Viking

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I remembered seeing this thread a few weeks ago and figured I would give my 2 cents on it now since I think I have something relevant. Past 3 grows I've gotten hit with these little black bastards in a peculiar way. I grow in potting soil and I'm sure they come in with it. I have just a few gnats for the first week or so. I spray neem oil twice a day in the tent. I spray the floor and 18 or so inches up the walls and lightly mist the top of the soil. I usually have them wiped out in the first week.
I usually grow two autos while vegging 2 photos and after the autos come down I flip the photos. It never fails that about a week before the autos start to flower these little shits show back up in full force to the point that they are very concerning(but only the autos). A few days after they show back up, the plants exhibit what looks like mag def. I call bs about fungus gnats not effecting the plants. I have my watering on point so I know that isn't the issue. I think when the plants start to flower they produce something that attracts the gnats. It takes a little longer to get rid of them the second time and I have had to go as far as having to do multiple soil drenches to get rid of them, which I don't like doing.
This round I am trying DE but I should have gotten it a few days earlier. Next round i may try mixing in crushed up mosquito dunks in with the soil to head them off before they can even start, but I dislike this idea even more so than the soil drenches. And guess what. After I flip the photos they show back up once again. This is why I think the onset of flower plants produce something that the gnats want. I'm hoping the DE is a permanent fix. If so I will keep plenty on my soil at all times. If not I will try the dunks and if that doesn't work I'll find a spray safe to use thru veg into the first few weeks of flower.
 
alphapinene

alphapinene

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@Ginger Viking

Actually started new seeds (2 alcapulco gold, 2 LSD, 1 candida) (took my plant down called it a day) even though it was still alive and looking good after a week of no light (went on vacation) ..decided to use roots organics original soil cut with 30% perlite and have NO gnat problems. i had one or two walking around the soil at the start which scared tf out of me but i just let the soil get nice and dry between waterings. Oh yeah and i started using coco fiber pots..i feel they're fuckin amazin for starting seeds cause it's nearly impossible to overwater which i had problems with last round..anyway the new babies are lookin nice n healthy :)
 
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