Is this Root rot?

Jeeyah

Well-Known Member
Call me crazy. But, I think those roots look awesome. Lol

Are you using brown nutrients or something? The first set of pictures don’t look so good. The second set look good. You said the plants look healthy up top?
 

Budley Doright

Well-Known Member
Maybe I'm missing something as well but is there not less root mass in the latest pics? Sorry if I misdiagnosed :( but they really don't look that healthy to me.
 

AngryMexican

Active Member
I disagree, respectfully lol notice no caps or bold letters .... jeesh. Would not the clumping indicate root issues? Anyways good luck op ;). Hope it goes away.

I think you mean this plant? I'll check it out and take a new picture today, it looks strange to me too :(

Maybe I'm missing something as well but is there not less root mass in the latest pics? Sorry if I misdiagnosed :( but they really don't look that healthy to me.
No, root mass increased...

You’re using Voodoo Juice? Is that brown?

Could be Hydroton dust.

Stick to clear stuff.
No, but Uptake by Cyco nutrients and B-52 by AN are dark as hell.
 

Budley Doright

Well-Known Member
Again sorry if I miss diagnosed but I'm still leaning towards something other than staining. One thing is if it is in fact staining, I would ask why is half the roots in one plant whitish and the other dark brown and clumping? Perhaps others could answer that re staining.
 

Dr. Who

Well-Known Member
First of all thanks a lot, but sorry I am kind of slow and my english sucks :)
So if I got it right...
... FIRSTLY I do put about 16 gal of 100% nutrient solution (almost to the bottom of net pots)
and afterwards I just add 33% solution little by little till I reach that 16 gal total amount. => Dump and all over again
But is it ok if this process takes more than two weeks? Because I am not sure if 2 plants can drink more than 16 gal in 2 weeks...
Yes, they will be fine that way! You're not adding back too much nutrient that way, or causing an imbalance by plants using more of one over another...
 

Dr. Who

Well-Known Member
Again sorry if I miss diagnosed but I'm still leaning towards something other than staining. One thing is if it is in fact staining, I would ask why is half the roots in one plant whitish and the other dark brown and clumping? Perhaps others could answer that re staining.
You have every right to disagree. Everyone does......Now on to the answer.

The amount of staining varies due to the variable amount of cellulose fiber that the roots are "shedding". This is due to root mass per root and other variables of root growth and age....Other things too.

The staining will be more present on roots with that cellulose being shed then those that have shed it. Think of roots like a snake. As they grow, they shed their "skin" to keep growing....
Any bottled "zyme" product is a specific "group" of living bio's that actually do the consuming of that shed "skin." And the brown staining is the "basically" still being consumed version of that cellulose fiber.
This staining is partly due to the chemical compounds in the nutrient line, Reacting to the whole process of growing...

There are nutrient lines that basically do not have that "browning" effect.

The brown waste material that collects on the bottom of any container in the hydro system. Is that consumed cellulose fibers.....

Lastly. If it was root rot. His plants would be in bad shape. Drooping and weak, with imbalances showing. Some looking like pH issues too.
Some can hit so fast that they looked good one day and the next they're completely drooped and looking like they have dried out in soil and need watering.
That type is a sure sign of res temps over 70 deg F....

That help Budley?
 

AngryMexican

Active Member
You have every right to disagree. Everyone does......Now on to the answer.

The amount of staining varies due to the variable amount of cellulose fiber that the roots are "shedding". This is due to root mass per root and other variables of root growth and age....Other things too.

The staining will be more present on roots with that cellulose being shed then those that have shed it. Think of roots like a snake. As they grow, they shed their "skin" to keep growing....
Any bottled "zyme" product is a specific "group" of living bio's that actually do the consuming of that shed "skin." And the brown staining is the "basically" still being consumed version of that cellulose fiber.
This staining is partly due to the chemical compounds in the nutrient line, Reacting to the whole process of growing...

There are nutrient lines that basically do not have that "browning" effect.

The brown waste material that collects on the bottom of any container in the hydro system. Is that consumed cellulose fibers.....

Lastly. If it was root rot. His plants would be in bad shape. Drooping and weak, with imbalances showing. Some looking like pH issues too.
Some can hit so fast that they looked good one day and the next they're completely drooped and looking like they have dried out in soil and need watering.
That type is a sure sign of res temps over 70 deg F....

That help Budley?
Man, I have no words :) , you must have horticulture degree or something... Great to hear opinions from people like you! Thank you very much man!!!
 

AngryMexican

Active Member

I think you mean this plant? I'll check it out and take a new picture today, it looks strange to me too :(
Again sorry if I miss diagnosed but I'm still leaning towards something other than staining. One thing is if it is in fact staining, I would ask why is half the roots in one plant whitish and the other dark brown and clumping? Perhaps others could answer that re staining.
Here is the same plant...




The plants look absolutely awesome, gonna become trees soon =D

And here are diff plants, fresh photos

 

AngryMexican

Active Member
Almost looks like you had a root issue but they corrected it and are re growing
Maybe... But I am absolutely sure that they did not smell whole time

This one is 2 weeks old seedling which was in rooting cube what was fully covered with green algae, I stick it on the border of the net pot in hydroton and here it is :) this one does not stink also.
This plant looks really pale, like nitrogen or iron deficiency

 
Last edited:

Budley Doright

Well-Known Member
You have every right to disagree. Everyone does......Now on to the answer.

The amount of staining varies due to the variable amount of cellulose fiber that the roots are "shedding". This is due to root mass per root and other variables of root growth and age....Other things too.

The staining will be more present on roots with that cellulose being shed then those that have shed it. Think of roots like a snake. As they grow, they shed their "skin" to keep growing....
Any bottled "zyme" product is a specific "group" of living bio's that actually do the consuming of that shed "skin." And the brown staining is the "basically" still being consumed version of that cellulose fiber.
This staining is partly due to the chemical compounds in the nutrient line, Reacting to the whole process of growing...

There are nutrient lines that basically do not have that "browning" effect.

The brown waste material that collects on the bottom of any container in the hydro system. Is that consumed cellulose fibers.....

Lastly. If it was root rot. His plants would be in bad shape. Drooping and weak, with imbalances showing. Some looking like pH issues too.
Some can hit so fast that they looked good one day and the next they're completely drooped and looking like they have dried out in soil and need watering.
That type is a sure sign of res temps over 70 deg F....

That help Budley?
Why yes it does, and no caps or bolds, must be a good day huh doc lol
 
Last edited:

churchhaze

Well-Known Member
What I don't understand is why people make hydro nutes that stain.

The only salt I have that's not white is Iron DTPA, which is orange, makes the stock solution it goes in orange, but does not stain roots when diluted in the reservoir.

What the hell are people putting in their hydro bottles these days? Brown paint? Useless organic additives like amino acids and fulvic acid.
 
Top