Is this nute burn or something else?

O

O Wise One

Member
Pics attached showing my problem, and the rest is for your viewing pleasure.....is that nute burn?

And if it is, should i just water regular PHd water with the watering i have coming up and then go back to nutes the next time??
 

Attachments

  • IMG_0694.jpg
    IMG_0694.jpg
    122.1 KB · Views: 28
  • IMG_0695.jpg
    IMG_0695.jpg
    136.8 KB · Views: 29
  • IMG_0696.jpg
    IMG_0696.jpg
    100.3 KB · Views: 32
  • IMG_0697.jpg
    IMG_0697.jpg
    131.6 KB · Views: 27
  • IMG_0698.jpg
    IMG_0698.jpg
    133.8 KB · Views: 30
  • IMG_0699.jpg
    IMG_0699.jpg
    124.3 KB · Views: 28
  • IMG_0700.jpg
    IMG_0700.jpg
    140.4 KB · Views: 26
All these of the same plant?

Also. We would need more info to help us help you. I wouldn't worry about PH if your in soil. Good soil buffers PH all by itself. No need to even mess with it. Those pics look like they've been taken over a period of time. Some look "better" than others. In the future when asking for help. Just post a pic of the issue your having. The third pic down looks like you may be a bit high on the N and it's got the slightly wrinkly sad overwatered look. Some of the other photos don't show the watering issue at all. Either way good luck.
 
Cold$moke said:
When ever i see small cab +hps =dry and hot usually
+ nutes mixed for normal humidty and temps = crinkle time :)

When you are hot or dry you need to feed more water with less ppm of food cause the plant processes more water.
Click to expand...

I see the wrinkle accompanied by droop when the roots aren't getting the oxygen/dry time they need. Reminds me of staying in the pool to long ((wrinkled hands)). I also know things at the ranch are guna start getting busy when I see commercials for the new season of deadliest catch lol....Smh I've been growing way to long. I'd say your most likely right about the temp being an/the issue here. I notice now it appears OP is in smart pots. They can be overwatered. However you gotta put some real effort into it..lol....Especially if the soil drains and drys out even halfway decent.
 
To add to that if your roots are processing water the way they are supposed to its hard to overwater if the medium is coco

Lots of guys feed coco and rockwool on constant wet no dry times .
 
Cold$moke said:
To add to that if your roots are processing water the way they are supposed to its hard to overwater if the medium is coco

Lots of guys feed coco and rockwool on constant wet no dry times .
Click to expand...

Yes I'm speaking about soil. We do all of our grows in soil. Constantly wet poor draining soil equals bad bad things...as I'm sure you know.... Having plants constantly wet in soil....whether in a pot or in the ground. Slows them down big time at very least. I add lots of perlite to even my store bought soils. I'd rather water that extra time per week than have to correct overwatering issues any day.
 
Ok so i have 3 plants. From left to right on the pics are..............The first 3, from left to right, is the same plant. Close up of my issue for the first 2 pics and then a full shot.

The next two pics is the second plant......was just takin a pic of it, i see no problems with it. The other is a pic of my 3rd plant, and then a pic of the whole grow.

Im growing in coco........Temps are fine......~74-78F when the lights are on 55-69% Humidity...so i think temps are fine, correct me if wrong.

These pics are not takin over time (Dont know how you can even make that assumption).......all taken last night.

THe 2 bigger ones are a month old. The small one is 3wks, roughly.
 
Last edited:
It does look like you're hot.
Wet, hot soil, can do it faster than anything.
Plants can show the effect, of being very dry, when they're salty. The salt dries/burns the roots. You could be saturated and still be too salty. Just think of the sea.
On the flip side, too much water will have the effect too. But it usually droops, goes limp, and the leaf edges start to soften, and discolor.
IMHO
You likely overshot your feeding.
Iv'e noticed for myself, going from earth and soil, to coco coir, is coir will make the plant look like that, if it isnt washed properly to remove sodium, and potassium.
Have you given it a big hit of NPK lately??
Hope you figure it out.
 
Tim1987 said:
It does look like you're hot.
Wet, hot soil, can do it faster than anything.
Plants can show the effect, of being very dry, when they're salty. The salt dries/burns the roots. You could be saturated and still be too salty. Just think of the sea.
On the flip side, too much water will have the effect too. But it usually droops, goes limp, and the leaf edges start to soften, and discolor.
IMHO
You likely overshot your feeding.
Iv'e noticed for myself, going from earth and soil, to coco coir, is coir will make the plant look like that, if it isnt washed properly to remove sodium, and potassium.
Have you given it a big hit of NPK lately??
Hope you figure it out.
Click to expand...

Yes i have........I just started the full strength 6/9 (The modified lucas formula) with 1ml of calmag. It has been the first time ive gone full strength.... I figured after a month it would be ready.

So should i just water with PHd water the next couple of waterings, how many exactly? Until it starts to go away? I wait about a day or 2 between watering in fear of root rot, constant wetness etc etc.
 
Yeah, just keep an eye on it.
If it gets way too dry, it'll get worse.
But....You're in a tough spot because you need to water.
Just keep drying it out.
Next watering. Give it a really big drink of water, until good runoff.
Dry it out.
Monitor its health, see if it improves.
Make another decision from there.
Keep us all updated.
Good luck.
 
Cold$moke said:
The ambient temp sounds fine humidity too

But how is the actual felt heat from the light?
Click to expand...


I do the back of the hand 10 sec rule. Seems fine, i go longer for paranoia reasons. Lights are about 7-10in away from the tops at all times.

Im getting another clip on fan to put on the other side and hit both canopies with wind so the lights can be a tad closer.
 
Also always remember when it comes to nutrients the formulas out there are estimates at best

Every room will have its own variables

But its ALWAYS easier to give more then take away.

One of the first things i do is bump down the feed if i have an issue .
Rarely does this make anything worse;)
O Wise One said:
I do the back of the hand 10 sec rule. Seems fine, i go longer for paranoia reasons. Lights are about 7-10in away from the tops at all times
Im getting another clip on fan to put on the other side and hit both canopies with wind so the lights can be a tad closer.
Click to expand...
Need to be comfortable to your hand 10 seconds isnt enough if you cant be under it all day then neither can your plants

When hot thin your nute formula down

When cold bump it up like people we require more calories when we are cold then hot :)
 
Cold$moke said:
Also always remember when it comes to nutrients the formulas out there are estimates at best

Every room will have its own variables

But its ALWAYS easier to give more then take away.

One of the first things i do is bump down the feed if i have an issue .
Rarely does this make anything worse;)

Need to be comfortable to your hand 10 seconds isnt enough if you cant be under it all day then neither can your plants

When hot thin your nute formula down

When cold bump it up like people we require more calories when we are cold then hot :)
Click to expand...


Yes the estimates.......Im also paranoid of not giving enough nutes and then not getting good plants...

What does a plant look like when it needs more nutes? what should i look for?

This problem im having seems easily fixable since caught so early....just my opinion, correct me if im wrong. Ya @Tim1987 i wait about 2-3 for coco.....seems like every 2 days on the bigger plants right now..
 
Most problems can be fixxed

Most noobs give their plants too much

It almost always works better just barely keeping them from being deficient:)

Study deficiency and TOXICITY charts before you sleep ;)
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

S
Light Burn?
Replies
9
Views
924
Nutty sKunK
Nutty sKunK
O
Auto-ph ppm rising
Replies
0
Views
501
Old Newbee
O
D
Is this nute burn?
Replies
8
Views
919
desplegado
D
S
Need some help managing nute burn in DWC
Replies
6
Views
684
stonedboss
S
crownhill
This years guerilla grow in France
Replies
18
Views
1K
BruceBanner32
B
Back
Top