Well, this is right out of the horses mouth so it must be true.
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Is there going to be a final word on Barrys Birth Certificate?
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brothafromanothaplanet
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Patrick Bateman
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This thread Fails hard
Just Sayin
Just Sayin
TheDemocrat
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I wanna see sarah palins birth certificate.
Banditt
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Who cares about what laws states are trying to pass. It's in the freakin constitution!!
The document in the CNN video is not very impressive. For christ sakes they show the seal by itself. That could be a seal on any document. Not to mention Michelle Obama really stuck her foot in her mouth in video from the OP. I'm not sure one way or another whether he is a natural born citizen or not. Although, my gut feeling is he is not. It's just too convenient how he was born in a state that no longer keeps REAL paper documents. And there was a lot of avoidance in providing his birth certificate when asked. I remember when this first came up a year or two ago, it was started on the restore the republic website if I remember correctly. Anyway, the request was ignored until the people who were asking about it took out a front page add in a bunch of major newspapers and the news channels started reporting about it. It was literally like 6 mos. to a year before he even acknowledged the issue.
The document in the CNN video is not very impressive. For christ sakes they show the seal by itself. That could be a seal on any document. Not to mention Michelle Obama really stuck her foot in her mouth in video from the OP. I'm not sure one way or another whether he is a natural born citizen or not. Although, my gut feeling is he is not. It's just too convenient how he was born in a state that no longer keeps REAL paper documents. And there was a lot of avoidance in providing his birth certificate when asked. I remember when this first came up a year or two ago, it was started on the restore the republic website if I remember correctly. Anyway, the request was ignored until the people who were asking about it took out a front page add in a bunch of major newspapers and the news channels started reporting about it. It was literally like 6 mos. to a year before he even acknowledged the issue.
I see a fair amount of Ad Hominem abusive arguments here - how about addressing the quote versis attacking the poster?
I didn't lean either way in this thread, I just imbeded a quote from our first Lady that I can only assume to be true. Please tell me how her statement "His home country in Kenya" can construed as anything other than being where he's from?
We need a spin Doctor - Stat !!
For those of you not versed in Ad Hominen abusive arguments.
"Ad hominem abusive usually involves insulting or belittling one's opponent, but can also involve pointing out factual but ostensible character flaws or actions which are irrelevant to the opponent's argument. This tactic is logically fallacious because insults and even true negative facts about the opponent's personal character have nothing to do with the logical merits of the opponent's arguments or assertions."
The very use of this argument illistrates that the person using that tactic cannot argue the subject on a factual basis.
I didn't lean either way in this thread, I just imbeded a quote from our first Lady that I can only assume to be true. Please tell me how her statement "His home country in Kenya" can construed as anything other than being where he's from?
We need a spin Doctor - Stat !!
For those of you not versed in Ad Hominen abusive arguments.
"Ad hominem abusive usually involves insulting or belittling one's opponent, but can also involve pointing out factual but ostensible character flaws or actions which are irrelevant to the opponent's argument. This tactic is logically fallacious because insults and even true negative facts about the opponent's personal character have nothing to do with the logical merits of the opponent's arguments or assertions."
The very use of this argument illistrates that the person using that tactic cannot argue the subject on a factual basis.
abe23
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Bullshit. You started a thread to beat a horse that has been isn't just dead but dismembered with the pieces buried in the four corners of the earth...
The clip you posted is completely meaningless. She probably would have been better off saying 'his father's home country' but it really doesn't mean anything. Yes, our president's father was kenyan. He himself was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born US citizen. We knew that during the campaign and we know that know. What's your point? Oh that's right....you don't have one. You're just spreading ignorant, uninformed crap.
Do you think barack obama was born in hawaii as per the above birth certificate? If you do, I don't really understand why you would start this thread...
The clip you posted is completely meaningless. She probably would have been better off saying 'his father's home country' but it really doesn't mean anything. Yes, our president's father was kenyan. He himself was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born US citizen. We knew that during the campaign and we know that know. What's your point? Oh that's right....you don't have one. You're just spreading ignorant, uninformed crap.
Do you think barack obama was born in hawaii as per the above birth certificate? If you do, I don't really understand why you would start this thread...
Padawanbater2
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GWN, this is an honest question;
What would it take for you to believe Obama is a United States citizen?
What would it take for you to believe Obama is a United States citizen?
Thanks for proving my point with a childish retort - see post #9.
The impetis behind the posting is that she did not say "his fathers home country", she said "his home country" and I would simply like to know why that is.
If you don't have anything constructive to add, and do not understand the point of this thread, then just run along.
GWN
SmokeyMcSmokester
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who cares...obama sucks ass anyway...he's a one-termer for sure, and the next pres is gonna have to clean up his and bush's mess....
Thank you for the intelligent response PWB. As far as our PotUS being a citizen, I honestly don't have enough concrete (non-internet) information to form an opinion. I do however know that when I joined the military years ago you can bet every swinging dick in the admin chain knew for certain when/where I was born, why should it be any different for the CinC?
Grunts, jar heads, sailors all have to know unequivocally that they are being given legal orders from above - they kill/die on these orders & I don't understand what all the legal wrangling and delay tactics accomplished?
Long and short of it is I would just like to know why she said what she did.
abe23
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Actually, I though answering the question you posted in the title was a constructive addition to this thread. The final word is there and has been since 2008. I posted a copy of it for your perusing pleasure and to answer your question.
She probably said 'his home country' rather than his 'father's home country' because she has better shit to worry about than whether morons like yourself are going to nitpick through every public speech she makes to find some sort spurious evidence to support their crackpot belief that her husband wasn't born in the US.
Have I answered your questions? Or did you not really have one to begin with?
Can you answer my question though? Do you believe that the birth certificate I posted is pretty sound evidence that barack obama was born in hawaii?
She probably said 'his home country' rather than his 'father's home country' because she has better shit to worry about than whether morons like yourself are going to nitpick through every public speech she makes to find some sort spurious evidence to support their crackpot belief that her husband wasn't born in the US.
Have I answered your questions? Or did you not really have one to begin with?
Can you answer my question though? Do you believe that the birth certificate I posted is pretty sound evidence that barack obama was born in hawaii?
BECAUSE HE'S BLACK. THAT'S WHERE SOME BLACKS COME FROM. IT IS THEIR "HOME COUNTRY".
sheesh, make me the racist.
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