Is the legalization of Marijuana really worth it?

Albino King Kong

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I have thought about it and I don't think legalization is worth it. It will increase atics and will cause alot of problems wih second hand smoke. Just the thought of this plant being comercialised makes my brain hurt. What is everyones elses thoughts on the matter?
 

Charfizcool

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I think it would be good...I guess. But really I could picture smoke shops selling govmn't weed for like 40$ a gram and dealers would be burning down smoke shops for stealing buyers and AHHHHH that'd be bad. Honestly legalization wouldn't change anything for me I mean look at it. I smoke weed and grow. If they legalize it what will I be doing? Still smoking and growing...I see a lot of bad coming out of it I'll take the having to hide weed and being stereotyped over burnt up smoke shops, overpriced weed, and w/e else could arise from it. I think medical legalization is different though maybe instead of prescribing Ibuprofen or Vicodin prescribe a few grams of chronic...instead of taking pills for high blood pressure prescribe 365g per year. Even though weed puts you at risk for heart attacks if you constantly smoke it(heart beats faster to compensate for low blood pressure)
 
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Rocky Top High

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Yea, growin weed without fear of being caught...having access to various clones...being able to buy seeds without fear of them getting jacked...using marijuana instead of pain killers and sleep aids...yea, that can't possibly be a good idea. :roll:
 

Charfizcool

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Yea, growin weed without fear of being caught...having access to various clones...being able to buy seeds without fear of them getting jacked...using marijuana instead of pain killers and sleep aids...yea, that can't possibly be a good idea. :roll:
*you just got bitch slapped* I'm not afraid of getting caught, fuck buying clones I'll make my own, I'm not afraid of my seeds getting jack I'll re-order from another site, I already smoke weed instead of pain killers. I'm just saying their is good that will come out of it but a lot of bad would come along with it...
 
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FromTheBong

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I think even if they did legalize bud it would still be illegal to cultivate. Just like it is with alcohol
 

kasuhit

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I think it should be legal to grow it, but illegal to sell. even it were "legalized" it probly wouldn't make a difference to me, I would still be dry :/

it would be great if it was lagalised but the goverment wont do it because they cant control and tax it.
why dose everyone always take this response, BS they can tax anything they want!

I think its more the Big Pharamceutical companies don't want you growing a plant that WILL ACTUALY CURE your illnesses wether it be physical or mental pain. naahhhhh they want you on a 3month-life perscribtion of thier bullshit controlled dosage of paxalofexeldriphdodymeyxcelaphine, which is non habit forming, and may or maynot cure your disorder with the whole slew of side effects. you realy think a drug that grows naturaly and instantly gives relief would ever be accepted and readly availble. They know it has medical value, its old news to them. exactly why its illegal.

on the other side it also keeps the jails full, the DEA employed, the Rehab machine going, the justifcation of building yet another prison.

not picking on you sidngroovennude, just ranting about MJs current status.:peace:
 

Charfizcool

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why dose everyone always take this response, BS they can tax anything they want!

I think its more the Big Pharamceutical companies don't want you growing a plant that WILL ACTUALY CURE your illnesses wether it be physical or mental pain. naahhhhh they want you on a 3month-life perscribtion of thier bullshit controlled dosage of paxalofexeldriphdodymeyxcelaphine, which is non habit forming, and may or maynot cure your disorder with the whole slew of side effects. you realy think a drug that grows naturaly and instantly gives relief would ever be accepted and readly availble. They know it has medical value, its old news to them. exactly why its illegal.

on the other side it also keeps the jails full, the DEA employed, the Rehab machine going, the justifcation of building yet another prison.

not picking on you sidngroovennude, just ranting about MJs current status.:peace:
about the tax thing the goverment can tax it but people will just stay buying from the streets cause the streets don't tax! Well usually.

So true about the prescriptions though. The pharmacies make BANK off selling people whatever pills with hella side affects if people could choose that or weed pharmacies would be fucked.

It does keep the jails full and give reasons to build new jails but thats about it. DEA can fuck with narcotics still, and who goes to rehab for weed(lol:peace:)
2 out of 3 reasons why the govmn't won't legalize weed anytime soon. Well they might but I doubt it, they'll lower the charges a shit load but I doubt it'll be completely legal.

EDIT:Isn't it great how they legalize opiates but not weed...lol
 
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kindprincess

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I have thought about it and I don't think legalization is worth it. It will increase atics and will cause alot of problems wih second hand smoke.
hm.... so, it'll make your storage areas bigger, and will help kill cancer amongst the masses?

try to come up with valid excuses; cannabis is not addictive, and the smoke is considered medicine....

sure you weren't thinking about the legalization of crack? :-|
 

kasuhit

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about the tax thing the goverment can tax it but people will just stay buying from the streets cause the streets don't tax! Well usually.

DEA can fuck with narcotics still, and who goes to rehab for weed
they don't have to tax the product directly, they would probly make you get a license that would permit you to smoke and then tax you on that.

true about the DEA, thers still plenty of meth out there. no one willingly goes to rehab for weed, but ther all ussualy in there cuz judge gave them the option of reduced sentace for going to rehab.
 

Charfizcool

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they don't have to tax the product directly, they would probly make you get a license that would permit you to smoke and then tax you on that.

true about the DEA, thers still plenty of meth out there. no one willingly goes to rehab for weed, but ther all ussualy in there cuz judge gave them the option of reduced sentace for going to rehab.
Damn you're a smart cookie eh? I never would've thought of that...props!

Never heard about that but I'm sure that too is true.

Ha I'm "legally" high right now! Fuck the government:peace: (well on this subject...not on everything)
 

GreenphoeniX

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Can't be any worse than Tobacco or Alcohol ... They're legal most places. Just means the government can tax it and get their cut of it.

I think they should legalize it, but not officially. Just stop busting innocent people for growing it. If they wana bust gangs and black market operations to do with huge amounts of Cannabis being shipped internationally and things, then that's fine by me. But charging some guy or girl wiht 2 kids and a mortgage for growing a few plants for him/herself and/or friends hardly seems like a crime... Doesn't seem any worse than smoking a cigarette or drinking a beer.

Just my 2 cents, cheers.
 

kasuhit

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when pot was in the midst of becoming completely illegal, they had govt stamps that permited you to have so many grams, but they were never issued and ther was no way to obtain them. thats kinda what made me think of taxing a license.

its not even the jail time or the fines thats the worst part about criminalized marijuana, its the felony that goes on your record, prevents you from getting a job colledge grant and some other stuff too

oh and what a pain in the ass completely failed idea drug testing in the work place is lol
 
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kindprincess

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when pot was in the midst of becoming completely illegal, they had govt stamps that permited you to have so many grams, but they were never issued and ther was no way to obtain them. thats kinda what made me think of taxing a license.
actually, the stipulation was, you had to have a stamp to be legal, but to get the stamp, you had to bring in your product to have it weighed and taxed....

ie, a loophole where they always win.
 

AlphaNoN

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The entire war on drugs is based on a repugnant assertion: that you do not have ownership over your own body; that you don’t have the right to decide what you’ll do with your body, with your property and with your life. The position of the drug warriors is that you should be in jail if you decide to do something with your body that they don’t approve of.


Vices are those acts by which a man harms himself or his property.

Crimes are those acts by which one man harms the person or property of another.

Vices are simply the errors which a man makes in his search after his own happiness. Unlike crimes, they imply no malice toward others, and no interference with their persons or property.

In vices, the very essence of crime --- that is, the design to injure the person or property of another --- is wanting.

It is a maxim of the law that there can be no crime without a criminal intent; that is, without the intent to invade the person or property of another. But no one ever practices a vice with any such criminal intent. He practices his vice for his own happiness solely, and not from any malice toward others.

Unless this clear distinction between vices and crimes be made and recognized by the laws, there can be on earth no such thing as individual right, liberty, or property; no such things as the right of one man to the control of his own person and property, and the corresponding and coequal rights of another man to the control of his own person and property.

For a government to declare a vice to be a crime, and to punish it as such, is an attempt to falsify the very nature of things. It is as absurd as it would be to declare truth to be falsehood, or falsehood truth.

Vices are not crimes.
 

nathenking

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Preach alphanon. dame bro that was one of the best posts ive read in a long time.

but i think im with charfizcool. a whole lot of bad shit would come from the legalization of marijuan. Im all for the decriminalization and medical movements, but when you legalize something like pot, big companies are gonna fuck everything up.
I live my life the way i want. I smoke and grow with no regard to the laws toward marijuana. so nothing would change for me post-legalization of pot. I sincerly feel that pot is not bad and what I do doesnot harm any body. SO if they want to ostrisize me for something I believe in, so be it. Its better than getting busted for something you feel guilty about. DUI, Assault cocaine etc....
just my 2cents
 

McLovin420

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Alpha +rep man. Right on.

I have thought about it and I don't think legalization is worth it. It will increase atics and will cause alot of problems wih second hand smoke. Just the thought of this plant being comercialised makes my brain hurt. What is everyone elses thoughts on the matter?
First you clearly don't enjoy freedom. If the powers that be told you to stop pissing standing up would you do it? If your worried about 2nd hand smoke be it pot, tobacco or crack leave the room. Don't force your cry baby ways on someone else. I say legalize it all man it's your body. The government has no right to tell you what to do with it.

A lot of bad can come from it you say. Look at how much bad has come from it being illegal. I've been arrested 2 times myself. Every 36 seconds someone is arrested for marijuana. It finances gangs instead of school. How many people have been injured or killed because it's illegal? How many lives have been disrupted?

about the tax thing the goverment can tax it but people will just stay buying from the streets cause the streets don't tax! Well usually.
Yea I want to run around for 2 hours and play the waiting game all night. I'd prefer to pull into 7-11 & pick me up a pack of lefties & back on my way in about 5 min. In case you haven't noticed you pay tax on everything. Why would you get your panties in a bunch over a tax on weed?

Was the founding of this country worth it? Was the civil rights movement worth it? You bet your ass it was. Is standing up for your rights when they are being oppressed by your government or anyone else worth it? You may not think so but I sure do.

How many of you guys & gals even vote? Do you know whats going on in the world or are you to busy keeping up with your favorite sports team or reality show? The people have the power in this country all we have to do is flex it. It worked for that bullshit amnesty bill last year why not for Mary Jane.
 

Stoney McFried

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I assume you mean addicts?Marijuana is not physically addictive.Second hand smoke?That's more crap from the government, so they can get you focused on something other than the harmful carcinogens THEY put in your environment.Have vaporizer bars.Don't buy commercial weed.Keep growing your own.
I have thought about it and I don't think legalization is worth it. It will increase atics and will cause alot of problems wih second hand smoke. Just the thought of this plant being comercialised makes my brain hurt. What is everyones elses thoughts on the matter?
 
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