New Age United
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I am trying to monstercrop its supposed to make them branch out like mad.
Is cloning gel or power absolutely needed?
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When they do revert back to veg, yeah they will branch out pretty heavily. I just wonder if the time it takes to complete the process will give you better branching than just starting with a new clone and employing topping techniques. Not sure which will get you where you want to be faster, but in my experience it has always been with clones.
New Age United
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The other thing is I have nowhere to keep a mother
You don’t really have to keep mothers to do clones. You just take a few off your favorite plants before you throw them into bloom to start the next generation. Then when those plants veg out you take more clones from the strongest of the plants and keep repeating the process. This assumes you keep with some sort of perpetual cycle or that you have at least 2 crop rotation bloom spaces. Then again it also depends on the length of your veg. If you veg a full 2 months like some people do, you wouldn’t really need a perpetual setup or multiple cycles.
New Age United
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Yes I do have two separate tents, that's kinda why I wanted to monstercrop bc I thought the timing would be right but now I realize just how long its gonna take, taking clones just before flip might be ideal.
New Age United
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The cuttings still have absolutely no roots at 18 so I got some rooting powder and am going to put them in soil. Just two questions, by the looks of how yellow they are should I really expect them to take root now? Can I take more cuttings 5 and a half weeks into flower? @Renfro @Rob Roy @Dieseltech
Herb & Suds
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Changing medium now reduces chances of roots as it slows process with every change and 5 1/2 weeks means you will to wait for a reveg
I would ride it out it looks like they are still green
Less light is best and a warm temp
Dieseltech
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What is temp and humidity? That far into flower gonna be a difficult
If your not pressed for time re vegging the plant and taking new clones a few weeks down the road might be better
If you do not maintain honey spot temps it can take weeks
If your not pressed for time re vegging the plant and taking new clones a few weeks down the road might be better
If you do not maintain honey spot temps it can take weeks
New Age United
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Ok I've kept my apartment at 20 degrees celcius that's honestly as high as I can go it kills the power bill at 22. I have them under a humidity dome and spray a few times a day.
Dieseltech
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Ok I would suggest going mcgiver mode and building a small room you can manage the temps EZ rather then try and use room temp and spend money you dont need to
You can build a small clone/germ room very cheap
I would suggest something like the following
A cheap but decent germination heat mat around 10x20 inches then run 10-20$usd
A box of simular size but with about 3 extra inches above your clones
clear plastic wrap and a thermometer
keeping a small cardboard box a certain temp is way easier then a big room
what kind of dome do you have i assume its not heated?
Dieseltech
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I just hit correct temps and use water
I do not even mist
Do you think him misting twice daily is counter productive? Would it be better to not mist and let it pull from stem or humidy in air?
Renfro
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I wouldn't mist unless it's wilting. If you have a dome over it then you shouldn't have to mist. I do think you want to encourage the cutting to make roots. I do like to give one light foliar feed about 5 days after it's cut but that isn't required, just keeps them greener.
Renfro
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I use monster cropping to slow the plants down. I don't keep a mother. If I cut before flip, my plants in veg end up WAY too big by the time my flowering rooms are empty and clean (about 80 days) If I cut say 15 days into flower that saves 15 days of veg, if they are slow to come back to veg thats another say 20 days. By doing that I have reduced the size of the plants to something manageable for moving into the flower rooms. Note some strains dont like monster cropping, they are rare. Star dawg is one. That strain never looked right after monster cropping. Small leaves, slow growth, all sorta nutrient deficiencies. It was definitely strain because we had two cuts and they both did that while all the other strains were fine. Strains take different amounts of time to reveg so tuning the timing will be required and is only possible as long as you stay with the same strain.
New Age United
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Ok thanks guys I think I may put a space heater in my closet and keep it on low see if that helps, no the dome is not heated and that's good to know I will stop misting right away.
Rob Roy
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They might root, but they're confused. It will take time. You're asking them to grow roots and reveg at the same time. That makes them grumpy.
If there are no bumps showing (that's what happens before they root) you probably want to inspect the cut area and make another cut if there's any suggestion of rot before you stick 'em in soil.
If the clones don't make it, you could always leave some foliage on what's in flower and reveg that. At least you know it has roots.
Renfro
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And by foliage he means that you need leaves AND some bud sites as branches will sprout from those buds.
hotrodharley
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Trim the leaves. Cut in half. Just leave a couple and pinch any flowers off. Unless you do they’re trying to grow instead of rooting.