iraq oil goes to china
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misshestermoffitt
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Isn't that special. We liberate them, then they give us the finger and the oil goes to China, who BTW is trying to poison the rest of the world.
The sad thing is, I'm not all that surprised.
The sad thing is, I'm not all that surprised.
puffdamagikdragon
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Best part is, the business people who use them for business are financially rewarded for it from our own government, and it is likely only gonna get worse.
misshestermoffitt
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We are just so fucked, I mean really fucked, actually raped is a better word....sigh.
puffdamagikdragon
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Yep, and all the other countries will be comin to the gang bang......
Bongulator
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Well, that's what a free market is all about -- they sell their oil to the highest bidder. I guess our companies weren't the highest bidders.
Also, keep in mind that most of the people in Iraq have more in common with the folks in Iran than they did with Saddam (who was minority Sunni)-- most in Iraq are Shi'a. When we invaded Iraq in 2003, I thought that was a mistake for a few reasons: 1) Iran (a worse enemy) lost *their* biggest enemy (and we paid for it!) which strengthened Iran, to our detriment; 2) I knew when they said that this would cost $50 billion or whatever that that was sheer bullshit; and 3) I predicted (and still do) that Iran and Iraq would ultimately become close friends because of their Shi'a-ness.
The whole thing was one monumental mistake, that fucked us over in all kinds of different ways. McCain shrieks "the surge worked!" Well, okay, yeah, it did. That helped us turn our horrifyingly disastrous fuckup into a slightly less horrifying disaster. It was a good tactic, but it was reinforcing a terrible strategy. (And no, McCain apparently does *not* know the difference -- which isn't surprising considering he was 894th out of 899 in school. He's dumb as a rock.)
Also, keep in mind that most of the people in Iraq have more in common with the folks in Iran than they did with Saddam (who was minority Sunni)-- most in Iraq are Shi'a. When we invaded Iraq in 2003, I thought that was a mistake for a few reasons: 1) Iran (a worse enemy) lost *their* biggest enemy (and we paid for it!) which strengthened Iran, to our detriment; 2) I knew when they said that this would cost $50 billion or whatever that that was sheer bullshit; and 3) I predicted (and still do) that Iran and Iraq would ultimately become close friends because of their Shi'a-ness.
The whole thing was one monumental mistake, that fucked us over in all kinds of different ways. McCain shrieks "the surge worked!" Well, okay, yeah, it did. That helped us turn our horrifyingly disastrous fuckup into a slightly less horrifying disaster. It was a good tactic, but it was reinforcing a terrible strategy. (And no, McCain apparently does *not* know the difference -- which isn't surprising considering he was 894th out of 899 in school. He's dumb as a rock.)
TheBrutalTruth
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http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/11/world/middleeast/11iraq.html?scp=3&sq=Oil Bid in Iraq&st=cse
I beg to differ, the problem isn't the free market, the problem is government.
medicineman
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Well son, how's it feel to be wrong?
misshestermoffitt
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Shouldn't Iraq be taking some of that oil money and paying for their own reconstruction?
tipsgnob
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of course, conoco philips, exxon mobil etc. when they drill drill drill they sell it to the highest bidder, which aint us. thats why all that drilling they want to do is not going to help us to become energy independant. unless we national the oil companies, like we did with aig...
TheBrutalTruth
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Reference?
tipsgnob
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the government agency that audits the oil companies, keeping track of how much oil/gas they actually get...were cut from 100+ auditors to less than 40 after bush became president...they used find an average of 70-100 million $ a year the oil co. were screwing us out of...since bush has been president they have found less than 50 million....
did u know rice was in charge of the oil for food program for sun oil , so either she knew all along or she didn't do her job . references i don't really care what anyone is buying u got to do better than that to put me in my place , 1 i didn't say it was true but i got it from someone that tells the trueth
Bongulator
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Forget about oil. If we drill up every drop of oil left on or under American soil, or our seas, that's less than five years' worth of supplies. We need to get off oil completely, and as quickly as possible. If it costs us a fuckload, well, so be it. Because if we don't do it, we're going to be spending that fuckload on oil anyway, but when it runs out then we'll be truly screwed. Obama's $150 billion to get the transformation rolling is a start. Pickens too. He's a dick, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't be investing heavily in wind -- and solar and everything else that isn't oil, including nuclear.
Hell, let's store all our nuclear waste in Alaska, now that I think about it. They haven't got many people, they have tons of land that's unused, and if we end up with some 8-legged polar bears or tentacled moose, that'll just make the hunting more interesting for soon-to-be former Governor Palin.
Hell, let's store all our nuclear waste in Alaska, now that I think about it. They haven't got many people, they have tons of land that's unused, and if we end up with some 8-legged polar bears or tentacled moose, that'll just make the hunting more interesting for soon-to-be former Governor Palin.