Inexperienced grower first grow issues

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    Greendreams94

    Greendreams94 Member

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    I am having problems with my new/baby fan leaves curling down. I have looked up the cause and think it is nitrogen toxicity but would like some experienced advice as this is my first crop.

    I made a massive mistake during germination and didn't label my strains. The plant in question is more than likely an LSD-25 auto fem with a possibility that it could be a Green crack auto fem.


    My grow:


    Indoor 1.2×1.2×2 grow tent.


    Watering - 300mL twice a day hand watering


    Nutrients - Floratrio. 4mL/L FloraGro, 2.5mL/L FloraMicro, 1mL/L FloraBloom, 1mL/L CaliMag


    Medium - Coco/perlite


    Nutrient pH - 5.9-6.3


    Age - 3 weeks 2 days after germination


    Any help is appreciated, as I am new to everything and know very little. Thank you.
     
    Last edited: Dec 8, 2018 at 1:33 PM
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    Hugo Phurst

    Hugo Phurst Well-Known Member

    Nitrogen toxicity maybe
     
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    shawnery

    shawnery Well-Known Member

    Turn your lights off and take a photo
     
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    shawnery

    shawnery Well-Known Member

    It's hard to tell under that light but it could be from overwatering as well. Under this lighting you can't see what color green the plant is or what toxicities or deficiencies that may exist.
     
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    5BY5LEC

    5BY5LEC Well-Known Member

    That ratio you are using is your problem I think. That is a lot of grow! Go to a 1:1:1 ratio.... add like 1.5-2ml calmag in there first and that's it.
    That's not in ml per gallon, that is the ratio.
    You need to be looking at your ppm's as well.
     
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    Greendreams94

    Greendreams94 Member

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    hopefully the pictures work, never uploaded as a thumbnail. Ive just been told it could be underwatering also.
     
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    growingforfun

    growingforfun Well-Known Member

    Could be over or under watered, they look a lot alike. Also stop messing with it or "training" it for a while. It will work out fine looks ok overall.
     
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    Master_Tabi

    Master_Tabi Well-Known Member

    Slightly overdosed on N nothing major, cut back on your N nutes. Does the pot dry out befor you water it? Set scheduels dont always work out...also hows your humidity and temp on/off temps ventilation?
     
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    facthunt

    facthunt Member

    Hi, I notice you're watering everyday in coco and perlite?
    I tried this myself on the recommendation of a popular youtuber and gave myself a world of problems 2 years ago.
    May I suggest the "lift the pot" method instead of daily, no problems (nitrogen tox, ph issues, root issues) since I employed this method. Let those roots dry out and go searching in the medium for moisture, thus building you a strong root system

    Words of advice- Less is more,esp with feeds. Love Kills! Enjoy your grow, good luck with it!
     
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    growingforfun

    growingforfun Well-Known Member

    This is standard in ALL media.
    OP, listen to this, if you didn't already know..
     
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    Greendreams94

    Greendreams94 Member

    Under a friends instruction i have been using the "superdry" method for the past 2 weeks, until 2 days ago i had my 600w as close to the roof as possible, watering only about 2.5"/sq around the trunk and keep the tent open slightly at the top so the roots would go searching. I would turn the out vent off when humidity got low and turned it back on when it would get close to 80%. I was told to keep the humidity above 60% and below 80% and the temp ranges 30-35 degrees.
     
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    Greendreams94

    Greendreams94 Member

    I grow in breathable bags if that makes a difference. Ive never noticed any run off coming out of the bottom of them, the bottom feels damp most of the time but other than that i just go and inch and a half deep and if it feels too dry i water. some days i will only water once. if any of that helps
     
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    growingforfun

    growingforfun Well-Known Member

    Sounds like you are getting aweful advise about watering.... you need to soak them, then let them dry out, repeat.
     
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    facthunt

    facthunt Member

    "some days i will only water once"
    I bet they will perk right up if you cut back on this to every 2/3 days. I know there is conflicting advice on letting coco dry out, but I've never seen any ill effects from leaving them until they are surprisingly light.
     
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    Greendreams94

    Greendreams94 Member

    Okay so I should mix a separate formula with less of the 5% nitrogen nutrient for this girl? And for a general rule, give them all a good feed (>600mL) one day and let them all dry out for the next 2-3 days and rinse and repeat? Should I continue with the light on the roof and keeping the humidity up?
     
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    Master_Tabi

    Master_Tabi Well-Known Member

    Yeah you'll get the hang of it, look at your plants and figure out what they need. Pick up method is great for watering, I wait till my babies droop and beg for it :weed:

    Just curious did you start in this container?

    reply in the am im :sleep:
     
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    growingforfun

    growingforfun Well-Known Member

    Soak them until runoff then let them dry out, it's not hard...
     
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    Greendreams94

    Greendreams94 Member

    No I didnt start in them in these pots, i transplanted them roughly a week ago.

    I've moved the light down to 45cm away from the canopy and increased ventilation. Should I continue to only water around the stem and leave the rest of the coco to dry out?
     
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    Master_Tabi

    Master_Tabi Well-Known Member

    Do it as such
     
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    CannaCountry

    CannaCountry Well-Known Member

    I can't elaborate on your nutrients; I don't have any experience with them. However, as noted, perhaps your ratios were off? I would sit down and get this sorted out before going too far, and being you're in coco, I would be at a minimum checking your pH (5.8 ideally) and if you can monitor your EC / PPM, that would be even better.

    You mentioned you just transplanted them a week ago and I can see you're into LST as well...you have to realize the plant is stressed from both at this point, so you have to be a little patient with her until she acclimates. With that being said, when you transplanted did you wash / rinse any newly added coco and did you buffer it out prior to using it? This alone can cause issues if you haven't done both.

    Just a few pointers from my own experience. Don't let your coco dry out...your plants will experience burn from doing this. This is why matching your plant to the pot in this type of grow is important. It's not necessary to have a giant pot. In fact in your size tent I wouldn't go over a 2 gallon pot and that is probably too big. A smaller pot will allow you to feed more and you'll find that 'over watering' as many like to call it, will not be your issue. Also, don't water with straight / empty water...ever. If you feel the need to give them a break from nutrients or if you feel like you must do a 'flush', do it with a reduced feed %, like 25%, but don't use just water...this will goof your plants up as well.

    So, if it were me, I would get a handle on your feed. Once you know this variable, make yourself a 50% feed solution and fully saturate your plant, to the point of copious runoff, drain the runoff and leave her be. If you had too many nutrients in the medium, you'll flush them out with this method and in the process you're re-setting your medium with a reasonable feed value and the proper pH value. Then feed according to how much she's 'eating'. To start you may be able to get by with feeding only once a day or two, especially if you just transplanted into bigger pots. As your plant begins to fill that pot with roots, and as the plant grows, it will begin to use more feed and you'll be able to get to the point of multiple feedings per day, every day, which is the true advantage of coco to begin with. Ah and one last observation, be careful with the 35º C maximum temp...that's a smidge warm. If you can't do much about it, for sure keep your RH up. Hope some of this helps...good luck.
     
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